Trims To Come?

"The version of Inglorious Basterds that bows in Cannes is unlikely to match the one that Universal and the Weinstein Co. roll out at a multiplex near you," the Hollywood Reporter's Scott Roxborough wrote today. "Wednesday's screening clocks in at 2 hours and 40 minutes -- reassuringly long for cast members worried about ending up as cutting-room dross -- but a programming challenge for distributors. So Basterds in Cannes could resemble a test screening, with a leaner, perhaps meaner cut going up in August."

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Posted by Jeffrey Wells on May 19, 2009 at 3:37 PM

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BurmaShave Author Profile Page says ...

Sounds reasonable, considering he just finished it. People will go insane of course.

Posted by BurmaShave Author Profile Page at May 19, 2009 3:46 PM

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Glenn Kenny Author Profile Page says ...

Note that Roxborough doesn't cite one single source for his speculation. And ignores the fact that, for better or worse, all the films he's done with the Weinsteins were, in a very real sense, his approved cuts.

In the biz, what Roxborough's doing here is known as "making shit up." Because he has space he's obliged to fill, I guess.

Posted by Glenn Kenny Author Profile Page at May 19, 2009 4:00 PM

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Kyle_D Author Profile Page says ...

Variety is reporting the final run time as 147 minutes, and mentions that it's "shorter than some had expected."

http://www.variety.com/index.asp?layout=festivals&jump=story&id=1061&articleid=VR1118003822&cs=1

I'd like to know what THR's source is on this. It sounds like speculation. I know Tarantino's rep took a hit after Grindhouse, but I'd imagine he still has final cut.

Posted by Kyle_D Author Profile Page at May 19, 2009 4:02 PM

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Gordon27 Author Profile Page says ...

I think that Tarantino rushed to get this ready for Cannes, sacrificing quite a bit because he suddenly had a bug under his ass for some odd reason... So, I think it's quite possible he'll cut it down.

But, at the same time, I think that a public "he's got to cut this down" vibe coming out of Cannes is the sort of thing that would make him dig in his heels and refuse to cut it. He just seems like that kind of guy.

Posted by Gordon27 Author Profile Page at May 19, 2009 4:04 PM

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p.Vice Author Profile Page says ...

It's almost like they're obligated to write this same story about every movie longer than 135.

Posted by p.Vice Author Profile Page at May 19, 2009 4:04 PM

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berkguru Author Profile Page says ...

this movie is going to SUCK

Posted by berkguru Author Profile Page at May 19, 2009 4:24 PM

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maxfm Author Profile Page says ...

I think the THR story is bullcrap. Tarantino can do what he wants in terms of length whether it's 2 hrs. and 40 min. or 1 hr. and 40 min.

Sure, he may make some trims, but it ain't a "programming challenge for distributors."

Bunk.

Posted by maxfm Author Profile Page at May 19, 2009 4:41 PM

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Deathtongue_Groupie Author Profile Page says ...

Vol I and II....

Posted by Deathtongue_Groupie Author Profile Page at May 19, 2009 5:15 PM

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DeeZee Author Profile Page says ...

Gordon: "But, at the same time, I think that a public "he's got to cut this down" vibe coming out of Cannes is the sort of thing that would make him dig in his heels and refuse to cut it. He just seems like that kind of guy."

Unless it comes to Asian films he and Harvey like to rape. Then chopping them up is fine and dandy.

Oh, and from an interview at http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/hr/content_display/news/e3i07c80a70350aca7270dd152c5a7ff5e3
:

"I look at "Death Proof" and realize I had too much time."

On an unrelated note, IMAX has no problem ripping people off on screen size. http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/hr/content_display/news/e3i23722e25472e38b48e5dd5bd93ec0102

Posted by DeeZee Author Profile Page at May 19, 2009 6:41 PM

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COCO Author Profile Page says ...

Make it better...trim it up,,,,10 to 12 minutes
There is always some excess...

Posted by COCO Author Profile Page at May 19, 2009 7:35 PM

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Deathtongue_Groupie Author Profile Page says ...

RE: the "newest" member DeeZee.

It's fascinating just how ingrained certain behaviors are in some people. Mental illness or not, it's still engrossing to watch them unable to correct their impulses. Countless admonishments from others and several bannings have not deterred him from this need.

Truly fascinating...

Posted by Deathtongue_Groupie Author Profile Page at May 19, 2009 8:36 PM

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Gordon27 Author Profile Page says ...

"Unless it comes to Asian films he and Harvey like to rape. Then chopping them up is fine and dandy."

DZ - the world is a slightly poorer place for your continued existence.

Posted by Gordon27 Author Profile Page at May 19, 2009 9:15 PM

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DeeZee Author Profile Page says ...

Deathtongue: Speaking of ingrained behavior, why was QT the most "influential" filmmaker of the 90s again?

Anyway, it looks like Castellari is as much a hack as QT.
http://www.variety.com/article/VR1118003930.html?categoryid=3628&cs=1

Oh, and Sofia Coppola's tapped the well dry.
http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/hr/content_display/news/e3i23722e25472e38b4f8a7d5e02fd00d66

Posted by DeeZee Author Profile Page at May 19, 2009 9:27 PM

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televisiontears Author Profile Page says ...

Jesus Christ, DZ. How willfully ignorant are you? As much as you despise QT, even you can't be that much of a fucking idiot to deny his massive, massive influence. Can you?

And how many goddamn handles do you need? Is Deathtongue right when he says you've been banned multiple times? If that's true, why in God's name do you keep coming back?

So many questions, such little logic.

Posted by televisiontears Author Profile Page at May 19, 2009 9:36 PM

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Deathtongue_Groupie Author Profile Page says ...

Like I said, truly fascinating.

I have no idea why you addressed that to me and then proceeded to tack on 2 totally unrelated post hijackings.

Posted by Deathtongue_Groupie Author Profile Page at May 19, 2009 10:10 PM

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DeeZee Author Profile Page says ...

tears: Actually, I've been away for a while now. The site's getting boring in general, which usually happens when you purge anyone who isn't a Yes-Man. But once in a while, I try to throw in my two cents. Anyway, I'm still waiting to see where exactly RD and PF influenced "Schindler's List", "The Shawshank Redemption", "Seven", "Fight Club", "Titanic", "The Matrix", "Welcome to the Dollhouse", "Happiness", "Saving Private Ryan", "Boogie Nights", "Twelve Monkeys", "Fear and Loathing", "Crouching Tiger", "Fargo", "The Big Lebowski", "Brokeback Mountain", etc...

Posted by DeeZee Author Profile Page at May 19, 2009 10:11 PM

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JustThisGuy Author Profile Page says ...

DZ:

Maybe you don't understand the meaning of influential. Saying someone was "the most influential filmmaker of the 90s" doesn't mean he influenced a bunch of other movies that came out in the 90s (even though he did, to some degree) it means simply that he was a film maker that has influenced and continues to influence other filmmakers between then and now.

Posted by JustThisGuy Author Profile Page at May 19, 2009 10:35 PM

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DeeZee Author Profile Page says ...

ThisGuy: I see what you mean, but none of the filmmakers behind the films I described were influenced by him, while the only ones who were influenced by him were one-hit wonders like Ritchie. So, again, I'm still waiting for anyone to actually explain QT's "legacy", since it seems as manufactured as the hype for Whedon and Richard Kelly.

Posted by DeeZee Author Profile Page at May 19, 2009 10:54 PM

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televisiontears Author Profile Page says ...

DZ, you're simply left behind on this. Most of us aren't QT fanatics (myself included), but it's hard to deny that the man has a huge following. There are legions of fans that cling to every word he says, and a significant number of aspiring filmmakers are greatly influenced by his work. *His* work, not the work of the genre ghetto dwellers you so redundantly claim he "raped".

I'll say it again. As a serious fan of cinema, you have to be willfully ignorant to deny that he's had an influence on other filmmakers. That's true even if you hate every word he writes and every frame he shoots. It's not an opinion. It's fact.

I'm almost a socialist, and even I can't deny the influence that Reagan and W. have had. Get fucking real.

Posted by televisiontears Author Profile Page at May 19, 2009 11:56 PM

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televisiontears Author Profile Page says ...

And leave Richard Kelly out of this. He's got his whole life ahead of him.

Posted by televisiontears Author Profile Page at May 19, 2009 11:59 PM

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DeeZee Author Profile Page says ...

television: A significant number of aspiring filmmakers =/= "massive", as you said earlier. And where were these legions of fans during Grindhouse and Jackie Brown? It's also ironic that you consider the filmmakers he ripped off to be "ghetto-dwellers" while ignoring QT's upbringing. Anyway, if you're going to argue that the talent which preceded him wasn't as "influential" as QT, then why do people recognize, say, Shaft, more than Jackie Brown? Why did Jeff, who normally hates martial arts movies, upload an audition clip of Bruce Lee? And why did a throwback like Snakes on a Plane do better than Grindhouse? Hell, why were Edgar Wright's zombie movie and cop movie more successful than Grindhouse?

Finally, since Reagan and W. are responsible for the shit-hole of an economy we have today, I'm not sure you want to use them as an example for QT's influence on cinema-unless you enjoy pointless remakes everyone else hates for some reason.

Posted by DeeZee Author Profile Page at May 20, 2009 12:25 AM

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Terry McCarty Author Profile Page says ...

Glenn Kenny wrote:
Note that Roxborough doesn't cite one single source for his speculation. And ignores the fact that, for better or worse, all the films he's done with the Weinsteins were, in a very real sense, his approved cuts.

In the biz, what Roxborough's doing here is known as "making shit up." Because he has space he's obliged to fill, I guess.

Wouldn't the above possibly be a leak from a Universal exec?

Posted by Terry McCarty Author Profile Page at May 20, 2009 1:09 AM

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hunterd Author Profile Page says ...

RE: DeeZee,

I'm not a yes man at all. I make fun of Wells all the time. Hell, he recently cussed me out for making fun of his "encounters" with Natalie Portman. And yet, I have never been banned.

You've been banned because you're either one of two things in every post--mean spirited or off topic. Often you're both.

Posted by hunterd Author Profile Page at May 20, 2009 3:10 AM

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DeeZee Author Profile Page says ...

hunter: You're right. I should revel in the Porky's director's death and rant about my crappy experience at Jack in the Box.

Posted by DeeZee Author Profile Page at May 20, 2009 4:03 AM

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DavidF Author Profile Page says ...

This is the second pointless article in two weeks in which a reporter suggests a film will be edited because he, personally, thinks it's too long. (The other was Funny People.)

Who gives a shit? This is journalism? Everyone's a producer and director now, eh?

Also, someone was gonna say it in a second any so should I just say, "DZ (or DeeZee, rather), shut the fuck up?"

Posted by DavidF Author Profile Page at May 20, 2009 6:39 AM

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DavidF Author Profile Page says ...

p.s. I'm still annoyed by Sasha Grey's name being misspelled in those banner ads. Can someone fix that already?

Posted by DavidF Author Profile Page at May 20, 2009 8:13 AM

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Gordon27 Author Profile Page says ...

DZ - if you can cite 'Boogie Nights' as a movie that Tarantino had no influence over, then you're just a fucking idiot who doesn't understand anything.

Posted by Gordon27 Author Profile Page at May 20, 2009 11:01 AM

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DeeZee Author Profile Page says ...

Gordon: So Quentin's movies are loosely based on John Holmes' life story, too? I did not know that.

Posted by DeeZee Author Profile Page at May 20, 2009 1:05 PM

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mtgilchrist Author Profile Page says ...

Gordon, I really would like to hear how and why Boogie Nights is influenced by Tarantino. I'm not saying it's impossible, just wondering what you mean.

Posted by mtgilchrist Author Profile Page at May 20, 2009 1:43 PM

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Jonah Author Profile Page says ...

"I'm still waiting to see where exactly RD and PF influenced "Schindler's List", "The Shawshank Redemption", "Seven", "Fight Club", "Titanic", "The Matrix", "Welcome to the Dollhouse", "Happiness", "Saving Private Ryan", "Boogie Nights", "Twelve Monkeys", "Fear and Loathing", "Crouching Tiger", "Fargo", "The Big Lebowski", "Brokeback Mountain", etc..."

You listed less than two dozen films. How many films have been made since 1994? Quite a different number.

Posted by Jonah Author Profile Page at May 20, 2009 3:22 PM

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DeeZee Author Profile Page says ...

Jonah: Those are the some of the most prominent ones, though, and people say that QT was the most prominent influence of that decade.

Posted by DeeZee Author Profile Page at May 20, 2009 6:34 PM

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Jonah Author Profile Page says ...

Fake DZ

Nobody is saying that QT influenced the most important filmmakers of the nineties and beyond. Just that he was a major influence on new, and indie, filmmakers.

To say that QT didn't influence cinema in any way shows just how film illiterate you really are. If you were, in fact, really DZ.

Posted by Jonah Author Profile Page at May 21, 2009 2:17 AM

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