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The Avatar footage, projected onto the huge IMAX screen inside Leows Lincoln Square, wasn't quite as vivid and needle-sharp looking as the 3D San Diego reel. And yet LLS projects "real" IMAX (i.e., on super-sized film) vs. the digital "fake" IMAX-on-smaller-screens that other NYC theatres were showing. What gives? My semi-educated guess is that Avatar looks better with digital projection since it's been an all-digital show from shooting to FX to post. Transferring to film (even IMAX film) just degrades. I know that what I saw wasn't as on-the-money so what other conclusion could there be?
Beyond this I was feeling a little Avatar-ed out after it ended. I walked out saying to myself, "Hmmm....no bump-up. Same as before only less so." Obviously because of the tech/focus issue but also because an Avatar visual highlights reel (i.e, the Na'vi/jungle monster/flying reptile-bird whoa stuff aimed at 12 year-olds) only takes you so far. It doesn't wear well the second time. I need story, soul, structure, music, wit, great acting, etc.
Why does Worthington's Jake Sully, a paraplegic military guy, act like an incorrigible 13 year-old when he wakes up from his Na'vi transformation operation and finds himself 10 feet tall and full of energy with two good legs? He didn't anticipate that it would be a huge shock to suddenly find himself able to walk around? The laboratory authorities didn't talk to him about adjusting before he went under? It's kind of stupid that he just gets up and goes "this is really cool!" and lumbers out of the recovery room with the physicians warning him to stay put or else. I didn't believe it. It felt bullshitty.
Plus the CG of his backside (including a tail) as he leaves the room looks too cartoony.
Down on Pandora the second monster (i.e., the big black one Scully is told to definitely run from) is right on top of him during the chase sequence. Why do big scary predators have to be within a step or two of their prey all the time? Why does every movie chase have to be so skin-of-our-teeth close? It gets old. Plus the monster moves so fast that his moves blurred out for me. My eyes couldn't follow each and every whip-snap movement.

And how does it work exactly that Zoe Saldana's Na'vi character -- a strong, fierce-eyed warrior named Neytiri -- can speak English? She's a Pandora native whose fellow Na'vi tribesmen speak in their native tongue with subtitles, so I don't get it. I'm sure it'll be explained down the road but it was one more thing to scratch my head about.
The 8 pm show was maybe 25% full, if that. A female Leows usher screwed things up in the early stages, telling people who showed their print-outs (like me) to go straight up to the fourth floor without telling them to get their orange wristbands from the Avatar/Fox guys on the main level. So a lot of us went up to the fourth floor only to be told to go all the way back down again.
I'm just going to take an Avatar break in my head until they start showing the full-length film to press sometime in November or whenever.
Posted by Jeffrey Wells on August 22, 2009 at 9:59 AM
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Yeah, I mentioned the blurriness as well in the other thread. It just didn't seem pristine. The IMAX scenes of The Dark Knight were really spectacular - crystal clear image - but I'm realizing that the "real" IMAX screens are really only good for a giant picture and for films that have scenes shot with an IMAX camera. I think from now on I'll stick to the fake IMAX digital screens for animations, etc.
Ages ago I saw This Is England digitally projected and it looked great. Why is this not the standard now? With HD TVs commonplace it seems weird that we are still projecting movies using weather-beaten film, with all the blurry, scratchy bits on it. Wouldn't it also cut costs for theaters and potentially reduce ticket prices?
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I was sitting right behind Jeff and was tempted to catch him after the screening and saying hi, but he was out of that theatre like a shot (and exited in the opposite direction of my party).
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Oh, and here's my logic question down the road... if Worthington actually defects and fights against the Marines, why don't the Marines just cut whatever connects his mind to his avatar? War's over, and he's stuck in a wheelchair again.
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I'm sorry, I checked out for a while. Are we still arguing over whether the "Avatar" trailer is better or worse than "GI Joe"?
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at August 22, 2009 1:14 PM
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This is bullshit. All of James Cameron's movies had great acting, story and soul so far so it's not unlikely that this one will have to.
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Don't worry: I read the decade old scriptment, it's all explained.
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at August 22, 2009 2:05 PM
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at August 22, 2009 2:07 PM
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He didn't anticipate that it would be a huge shock to suddenly find himself able to walk around? The laboratory authorities didn't talk to him about adjusting before he went under? It's kind of stupid that he just gets up and goes "this is really cool!" and lumbers out of the recovery room with the physicians warning him to stay put or else. I didn't believe it. It felt bullshitty.
I couldn't disagree with you more Jeff. No amount of counseling from a therapist can prepare someone who is paralyzed from the waist down for what happens when a miracle allows them to walk again. Imagine for a moment that your legs are useless hunks of flesh. Dead weight with no chance of ever walking or running. Now imagine you're suddenly able to walk and run. Your brain will short out and all the warnings to take it easy will go out the window. Paraplegics have constant dreams of running. If you suddenly wake up with new powerful legs, the first thing you're gonna do is run around like an excited child and fuck what the scientists are saying. Nothing bullshitty about that. FYI, I saw the IMAX 3D footage and was blown to bits. Everything felt alive. David Poland was there. He seemed to enjoy the experience. Cameron delivered. I believe in AVATAR but seeing it 3D is a MUST.
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at August 22, 2009 3:14 PM
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What? A guy goes native? You mean after all the endless hype for this movie, *that's* what it's about?
You can throw up all the CGI on the screen you want, it's still the same old story as something like 'Dances With Wolves', but made weaker by us having to suspend disbelief by watching obvious computer characters emote / fall in love.
Game-changer? Show me a CGI character with convincing weight to it's movements.
I can safely skip this one.
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at August 22, 2009 3:15 PM
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Question: Why do all alien races have apostrophes in their names? is this an intergalactic code that we humans are sinisterly avoiding?
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at August 22, 2009 3:40 PM
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I really hate it when something negative is said about a director like Peter Jackson or James Cameron you get all these “they’re visionary directors that have an OSCAR”. Thanks for contributing for this conversation.
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at August 22, 2009 5:41 PM
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It probably looked blurrier just because it was larger. 2K material displayed big enough just plain doesn't look very good. Seeing it digitally projected won't necessarily make it look any better, especially not if you sit so that it still fills the same amount of your vision as the full-scale IMAX auditorium. You'd likely be getting the "screen door effect". Comparing it at the same viewing angle it should look to have more or less the same amount of sharpness.
Not having seen it I can't say for sure, but that's probably it. It could have been a focus problem or a bad transfer, but that is the most likely explanation.
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at August 22, 2009 9:52 PM
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Are you fucking serious?"
Yes, I am fucking serious. But of course I excluded Piranha 2 which isn't really a James Cameron movie.
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at August 23, 2009 1:02 AM
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That had me wondering if Cameron hired George Lucas as a 2nd unit director, I'm wondering if, at the moment the scene is frozen, an even BIGGER monster swoops down to kill the 6 legged marsupial saber cat.
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