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allstar397 says ...

I cant wait to see the crowds cheering this movie...while wearing Nikes, and updating their Facebook statuses on their IPhones. But they think they hate corporations while simultaneously feeding them every single day.

comment #2

slutsky says ...

I know, it's like people protesting the government while still using sidewalks! You've discredited any criticism of capitalism just like that!!

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Colin says ...

Leno is extremely fair person; if he says it is non-partisan I can't help but imagine a lot of other people will find it that way as well.

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allstar397 says ...

Slutsky, how you found a way to compare using sidewalks to buying "evil" consumer goods is amazing. Needs and wants are very different things.

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Vernon Hardapple says ...

Slutsky and Allstar:

You are either both very young and/or naive, or simply not thinking all that clearly.

Allstar, you are correct in pointing pit the small-mindedness of Slutsly's comment. Surely, there is a difference between wants and needs, an his argument has nothing to do with Mr. Moore's comments.

However, your comment regarding some supposed hypocrisy regarding the purchasing of goods that are not needed (IE Conspicuous Consumption, and the foundation of this, andany other Western nations economies), also lacks a certain amount of relevancy.

One is by hypocritical if one attends a screening of "Capitalism"
wearing a pair of Nike's, one is simply a consumer like all Americans--commodified up to our necks, for sure, but that has no relevancy to Moore' comment above.

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slutsky says ...

Ok ADMITTEDLY I wrote that comment when I had just woken up and was cranky. But my point is that there can be a middle ground... you can criticize capitalism without having to completely renounce your running shoes.

comment #7

Josh Massey says ...

"Moore wanted to put the moment in his film, but realized it could cost the cop his job, and decided to leave it out."

Does anybody really buy that? Has Moore not heard of blurring and voice distortion? He would have never left that out.

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Ryansi51 says ...

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comment #9

allstar397 says ...

obviously lost in my snarky one liner was my real point; many things we love come as a direct result of capitalism. Lets make sure not villify the very idea of capitalism b/c its the thing to do, lets figure out how to keep it in check without stifling growth/innovation. I sound a little less obnoxious in this post i think lol

comment #10

ErrantElan says ...

"Obviously last in my snarky one liner..."

And you've obviously lost the point of the entire piece, though that's probably purposeful. Seems to me the entire thing, from Wells, Moore, Huffington, and even Leno, is that this isn't a broadside at capitalism, but at corporatism, particularly the evil gangsterism that's been going on since Reagan.

Yes, companies such as Nike do some terrible shit (sweatshops, etc.), but individual corporations aren't as big a problem.

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lipranzer says ...

I just sent an e-mail to Jeff about this, but on the off chance he doesn't get to post it due to having to understandably worry about things like finding a new place to live, here's the gist:

I attended a screening of Moore's movie last night (it's early Wednesday morning on the East Coast as I'm typing this) at the AMC Loews Lincoln Square 13 theater in Manhattan, on the corner of West 68th Street and Broadway - I'm making the location public for reasons that will soon be made clear. Though the lights went off at 7 pm exactly (by my watch, anyway), which was when the movie was supposed to start, after the credits, the movie went out of focus, and stayed that way for approximately 3-4 minutes, despite the loud complaints by the audience members of the packed house, and people like me going out to the lobby and complaining directly to the staff and asking them to fix the problem. Finally, the film went back into focus, but near the end of the film, it went slightly out of focus again (though you had to be paying attention). So when the end credits came up, and after I had gone to the bathroom (I had wolfed down dinner right before the screening), I went to the staff to complain, and saw another audience member had beaten me to it. I only got to hear part of the conversation, but after he patiently tried to clarify their point, the staff member basically said the discussion was over and asked him to leave. I asked the man what the theater staff had said, and he told me apparently they were using night vision lenses, or something like that, to deliberately distort the focus of the movie so people wouldn't be able to copy the movie, as a way to combat movie piracy.

Now, there are two options here as I see it. The first option is the theater staff member was lying, by himself or at someone else's behest, and this was all part of some plan to try and sabotage the screening by creating bad word-of-mouth for Moore's movie (if that was the case, it didn't work - the audience laughed at all the right places, were quiet at all the right places, applauded the film at the end, and on my way to and from the bathroom, I heard people discussing it). The other option is the staff member was telling the truth, and this was the colossally stupid tactic of the theater owner, as well as the studio (Overture Films), to combat piracy. Do they really think alienating moviegoers is a good price to pay for trying to halt this so-called epidemic of piracy?

I e-mailed Moore as well, asking him to contact the theaters that show his movie to make sure none of them pull this stunt again, and I intend to spread the word and tell people to avoid going to this theater again until they promise not to pull this kind of stunt again. I realize in the scheme of things this may not rank as important, but it is a case of corporations thinking they can get away with anything, which is exactly the kind of thinking Moore is railing against in the film.

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