What's the deal with Jon Hamm's hair? I don't know if that guy wears a rug or not, but it ALWAYS looks dubious.
I also have to say, if I were a celebrity, no way I'd do this kind of partisan shtick even as a good-natured joke. Not to sound like that tool "Dirty Harry," but this kind of thing really is the reason why 48 states of this country hate and resent actors telling them how to vote.
Face it, if this was Gary Sinise and Jon Voight doing an even remotely in-jest, good-natured pro-capitalism or pro-military Funny or Die piece of shtick, Wells would be utterly disgusted and probably title the thread "Loathesome Brutes" or something.
Every time I see a member of Congress go on a talk show and pull the "I have a friend in Canada ..." bullshit I send off an email to that congressman's office to inform him that I HAD TWO FRIENDS IN THIS COUNTRY die because the insurance companies figured it was more profitable for them to die slowly than receive treatments that would have cured them.
What genius figured that the best business model for our healthcare system would be to introduce a third party who doesn't care about patient care, and have that third party be the lynchpin we hang our system on?
Posted by C is for cookie at September 22, 2009 10:41 AM
Well Lex, thankfully you will never be a celebrity.
Problem solved.
And I'd love it if you'd point out where you came up with the "48 states" figure.
I personally don't know anybody that openly hates and resents actors for telling them how to vote.
I personally don't know of any actors that TELL you how to vote. An actor might drop some info, much like the similarly unqualified Ann Coulter and Glenn Beck, and you have the right to take it into consideration or not.
"I personally don't know anybody that openly hates and resents actors for telling them how to vote."
I sure as shit do. I call most of them "uncle."
I also work with a bunch of "conservative sketch comics" and this little video above would, in their minds, suddenly equate Will Ferrell with Che Guevara. Honestly, you've never met a conservative or read a conservative blog, like Big Hollywood, where *Letterman* of all genial comic sacred cows, is regarded as if he's Karl Marx?
Never heard of O'Reilly impotent (like he goes to movies anyway) war on Sean Penn movies?
I have friends and family all over the South and places like Ohio and PA and Virginia, and they hate being talked down to by actors-- fuck it, they hate actors expressing ANY political opinion -- more than just about anything in the world.
These sorts of things always serve a good purpose.... to make the celebrities involved feel good about themselves. It's also delicious candy for those who agree verbatim. ("Will Ferrel and I agree on the single payer matter")
It's fun to watch.
But really. Are these things ever really effective? Even if you're down with every word, do you really think that somebody in Indiana who is against Obama's health plan will come across this and say, "well shit.... I had no idea the comely Linda Cardellini was for health care reform... color me convinced!"
Oh well. It's cute and I'm sure they had fun making it.
Also... fellow Mizzou Tiger Jon Hamm rules... and I've loved Linda since Freaks and Geeks.
Posted by Travis Crabtree at September 22, 2009 11:17 AM
Most of the friends/distant relatives "back home" in my anecdotal case are big military families or very working-class Republicans, but trust me, the mere mention of the name Clooney, Baldwin, or especially Penn (or, basically, the word "Hollywood" in general) sets them off like the word "journalist" would set off Hunnam's soccer club in "Green Street Hooligans."
It boggles the mind that someone could have not encountered ANY of this, as Jonah claimed.
Nice Hooligans reference. Depending on where Jonah lives that might be true, but where I am from I hear about it constantly until I got to Reno anyway.
Thats because your "Uncles" are so wrapped in their ridiculously dogmatic beliefs, they need enemies in order to justify those ignorant thinking. Though, I hate to say so, but I do agree. Jonah's statement is really quite naive.
Go figure, you work with a bunch of "Conservative Sketch Comics", Lex G. Do they help you to find meaning in all your hate-spewing and misogyny? And really, CONSERVATIVE sketch comedy!? I'm sure the laughs begin and end with such labeling.
Posted by Vernon Hardapple at September 22, 2009 11:39 AM
To clarify, they also work at my "day job." I'm not in their wack troupe or anything. And you WOULD NOT BELIEVE what constitutes "conservative sketch comedy." Mostly my day consists of me fake-grinning in agonizing pain like Alvy Singer when they bring in that hack comic in "Annie Hall," listening to these douchebags a capella their offensive, unfunny *songs* about Obama being a Socialist.
I don't understand what your "do they help you find meaning..." question means at all. But you'd be spewing some hate too if you had to stand there inching away from this shit like you're being hasseled for change at 7-11 at 3am.
I don't understand this notion that celebrities who have been given a venue to express their beliefs shouldn't take advantage. Sure, there are some who think that since people know their face, that somehow makes their opinion more valid. But if you're passionate about a particular issue, why wouldn't you use every opportunity to raise awareness or make your voice heard?
But, NO! You shut up a dance for me, monkey! Dance!
I have to agree with Lex on one point -- this video is preaching to the choir and won't change the mind of someone who is conviced Obama is the lovechild of Hitler and Karl Marx. The only thing it might do is make them throw their copy of Anchorman out the window of their rusty pickup the next time they're speeding along a gravel road.
Posted by C is for cookie at September 22, 2009 12:18 PM
LexG, arew you employed by an insurance company? If you're not, you fucking should be, you are doing EXACTLY what they are doing: making the issue about some attendant bullshit like 'actors' having 'opinions' and 'expressing them' like that's some crime, instead of the cold hard fact that insurance companies, the companies charged with looking out for you in times of need, will fuck you given half the chance to save some money.
Actors telling you this shouldn't make it any more fucked up.
I'm not taking a side on it, GK; Was just pointing out that Red State America doesn't like being preached to by Will Ferrell and the hot chick from E.R. Personally, hey, if they had Jessica Alba or Megan Fox telling me how to vote, I'd vote that way just because they gave me a boner.
I'm 100% apolitical. And if I were an actor? I wouldn't give a damn about ANYTHING political; I'd be too busy banging chicks and counting my money.
Call it my Tommy Lee Theory on life. In the 30 years since Motley Crue broke, there's been war, strife, crime, riots, fires, floods, terror attacks, epidemics... and through it all, YOU KNOW Tommy was just rockin' out on drums, chillin' wih a drink in one hand and two porn starlets on either side, grinnin' and good-natured and not caring for a second about anything else but sex, drugs and rock n roll.
And that dude's still got a great head of hair and looks 23 years old and gets mad chicks and is happier than any of us who actually worry about this shit that WE CAN'T CONTROL.
Yeah man, but we can't all be Tommy Lee, I mean, who would be the hookers and sell us drugs?
Health Care, in a democracy, is supposed to be something that you can control. If 80% of the people dig a single payer option, then it must be so. Can this 80% go to the next town hall with THEIR guns? Please!
And shoot that arrogant fuck Tommy Lee on the way. He's been riding a gravy train that we put him on for 30 years.
Is Tommy fucking Lee really your gold standard? Oh, and
the Crue suck balls.
Shit, now you've got me all distracted and talking about dickhead B-list celebrities who gave up whatever useless bullshit got them famous 30 years ago to become a 'personality'.
Honestly? I have three college degrees, and I listen to these blowhards on Maher and O'Reilly and Olbermann and Beck... and I STILL have no idea what "single payer" and "public options" mean. None of it makes ANY sense to me, whatsoever. If the terminology is utterly impenetrable to me, you really think some redneck yay-hoo is gonna take the time to sort this out? Or is he just gonna hear "socialist" and want to keep things the devil they know?
Why, pray tell, WOULDN'T you want to be Tommy Lee?
Famous, awesome, bangs hot chicks, millionaire, good hair, in great shape and super thin despite 30 years of apparent drinking and drugging, hangs out with awesome rappers and metal dudes, has a genial and likable personality.
Where's the downside? Class envy is the stupidest thing ever. Just admit the guy's got you licked when it comes to being a human being.
NOW SOMEONE TELL ME WHAT SINGLE PAYER MEANS.
Does that mean you have an insurance where you're a dude paying it singly? NO ONE EXPLAINS THESE TERMS, EVER. Not even Obama.
All I know is I go to a job where I make 75K and when I started I signed up for health insurance, so that's that. I don't know what the FUCK a single payer is, I don't know what they're fighting for.... what's so bad about your job just offering you like Blue Cross or Kaiser or some other thing, and you say, yeah, that's what I want, and you pick a doctor in that plan, and that's who you go to?
Is single payer like each single person who has insurance pays whoever they want? EXPLAIN IT. SLOWLY.
It means that taxes are used to give everyone health care. Yes it is prone to waste and corruption as much as any other institution, but it does guarantee health care for all. And that's the point. It does not, however, mean you cannot have private health care. I'm from Dublin, and have lived in many countries the world over, and have had experiences in private clinics and standard public hospitals. Some were good, some were not so good, none compared to NOT going to the hospital at all.
I'm sure there are people like that. Most of them exist on the internet, as anonymous rednecks on blogs.
The rest of them are so idiotic, so off my radar, that I don't really count them as people. They are the thugs that listen to Limbaugh as if he's God. They are the thugs that bring their guns to Obama appearances. They are the thugs that are screaming about socialism. They are the thug "birthers".
Most of my family and friends (born and raised in Utah) are very conservative. I consider all of them to be good people. I've talked politics and art with most of them. And none of them have ever said they hate or resent an actor because he TELLS them how to vote.
Exactly what standing do you have to complain about other people making obscene profits?
Posted by SaveFarris at September 22, 2009 2:05 PM
comment #26
Jonah says ...
I also think that the "thugs" that claim to hate and resent these actors are all talk. I'm sure they still slapped down their 12 bucks to see the Bourne films despite the presence of the very outspoken liberal actor Matt Damon.
They'll go see the next Will Ferrell dumb comedy. Most of them probably aren't the educated types that would watch Mad Men, but if they do, they won't stop because of this video.
If I hate and resent an actor I won't go see his films. Period.
I like Will Ferrell, (though it's become kind of hip not to).
Despite what you might think on this issue it is worth pointing out that there is not one single insurance company CEO who has made anywhere near as much money as Ferrell made this past year.
Posted by Travis Crabtree at September 22, 2009 2:42 PM
comment #30
Jonah says ...
I'm not surprised you think that's a good point, Travis.
Who cares how you make the money? That isn't relevant at all. Entertaining your fans and screwing over the powerless certainly sounds like a fair comparison.
Will Ferrell doesn't make his money off the death and misery of the American people, you stupid, stupid bastard. If his payment for Anchorman was based on how many crew members died on set than you'd have a point. Are you saying you have to be a communist to have a problem with health care run on a for profit basis?
As predicted, Will Ferrell is now officially an enemy of the teabaggers for this silly video; Check out the vitriol in the comments section here and tell me why you'd ever pipe up about politics if you were an actor or comedian who wanted to reach the widest possible audience without annoying a segment of them so viciously.
I'm shocked that most of the morons in your link don't seem to know Jon Hamm. Shocked. Mad Men must be on the same time as Are you Smarter Than a Fifth Grader.
Posted by Jonah at September 22, 2009 6:12 PM
comment #34
Travis Crabtree says ...
Jonah is a very, very, very angry little girl. Do not piss her off.
Baron von Rothchild... I'm not, (though I don't speak for Ferris), trying to make a moral equivalence between Will and a CEO.
It's just another reason why these celebrity/political messages aren't as effective as they are fun for those involved.
To Joe Sixpack-Popcorn Jr. it often comes off as one group of pampered multi-millionaires bitching about another group of pampered multi-millionaires. (i.e. "Sure he's funny, but I doubt that dude from 'Land of the Lost' has to worry about escalating premiums or out-patient surcharges")
Posted by Travis Crabtree at September 22, 2009 7:44 PM
comment #35
Jonah says ...
Travis,
You lost the right to talk tough to me after you:
Twice threatened me on this forum---
Even going so far as to say you'd come to my city to find me---
I welcomed the chance to meet you in person and told you the exact city I live in---
I emailed you personally---
You never emailed me back.
Chicken shit. That's what you are. I called your bluff and you reacted like the little girl coward that you are.
You have words. Not actions. People know the difference.
And the way you backed off on the Will Farrell comment was fucking priceless.
Pussy.
Posted by Jonah at September 22, 2009 8:12 PM
comment #36
Travis Crabtree says ...
Oh yeah.... I KNEW you'd try that.....
"Check's in the mail", right?
You never emailed me..... You're a liar.... and don't even try to lay down some shit about it being a bogus address.... because that will come as some news to the the three HE members who DID email me.... (mostly to say hello and see if it really was me)
even Wells knows that's my email.....
And listen, sister.... I didn't back off on Will Ferrell....
All you ever said was that you lived in Utah.... (that narrows it down, I guess)
Hmmmm.... email inbox is still empty.....
smith3730@roadrunner.com
(so you don't pretend to not remember it)
By the way, anyone else on here want to email me, feel free.... we'll talk movies, latino party elephants, Egyptian screenings and what an angry little girl Jonah is and why she likes to talk like a tough guy from the safety of her mom's kitchen nook.
Forget, the email, Joanie.... tell us "exactly what city" you live in here.
Real tough chick, that Jonah.
Posted by Travis Crabtree at September 23, 2009 12:39 AM
comment #37
Jonah says ...
I emailed you twice, pussy. And I'll email you again right now.
How sad that you resort to "little girl" comments. How very sad.
You got my email, coward.
You've got real masculinity issues.
I'll email you again. But just so you get it, I live in Ogden, Utah. Now you can't claim to not know.
I'll email you for the third time now. Maybe this time you'll find your sack and respond. My guess is you'll continue to claim that you didn't get it.
Real bitch movie, son.
Posted by Jonah at September 23, 2009 1:54 AM
comment #38
Jonah says ...
Travis,
I know you like to puff up your chest and show off your internet muscles for everybody here. But this isn't the time or place. You've got something to say to me, say it in the email (you can respond to any of my three emails I've sent over the past two weeks). Don't say it here. Nobody here gives a shit about your mommy issues, your false bravado, or your ability to talk shit about me on a thread I haven't even responded on.
Save it for the email or for when you visit me in person, as if that'll ever happen. I think you left your balls in your momma's mouth.
Just my two cents, but as someone who gets mad hate here and on Poland's blog and can't believe people take all this Internet stone-busting so seriously... Like, life's too short. Call a truce. I'm always taken aback when someone chimes in here or there that, like, I should KILL MYSELF because I like a certain movie or have certain (non) politics or my jokes aren't funny or I talk too much about some actress I'll probably never meet, just trying to get a laugh or some validation.
You guys REALLY want to come to blows or even trade roid-rage emails and get your blood pressure up over some BLOG COMMENTING SHIT? Smoke a figurative peace pipe or some shit or just agree to disagree. Fake-fighting on some other dude's blog isn't worth all this rage.
I'm shocked that most of the morons in your link don't seem to know Jon Hamm.
I'm not. Despite the accolades, Mad Men is still an extremely niche show with ratings that, while boffo for AMC, are still quite poor in the Entertainment universe overall. Add in that Hamm isn't in his Draper getup and the lack of recognizance isn't that surprising.
Posted by SaveFarris at September 23, 2009 1:09 PM
comment #1
Phatang!
says ...
I'm uncomfortable with the way I feel about Jon Hamm.
Posted by Phatang!
at September 22, 2009 10:21 AM
comment #2
Colin
says ...
Pygmy horses are guaranteed by the Constitution! Anyone who says different is a pinky, liberal, baby killer, negro-lover.
There now Mowkeka doesn't have to comment
Posted by Colin
at September 22, 2009 10:34 AM
comment #3
LexG
says ...
What's the deal with Jon Hamm's hair? I don't know if that guy wears a rug or not, but it ALWAYS looks dubious.
I also have to say, if I were a celebrity, no way I'd do this kind of partisan shtick even as a good-natured joke. Not to sound like that tool "Dirty Harry," but this kind of thing really is the reason why 48 states of this country hate and resent actors telling them how to vote.
Face it, if this was Gary Sinise and Jon Voight doing an even remotely in-jest, good-natured pro-capitalism or pro-military Funny or Die piece of shtick, Wells would be utterly disgusted and probably title the thread "Loathesome Brutes" or something.
Posted by LexG
at September 22, 2009 10:40 AM
comment #4
C is for cookie
says ...
Every time I see a member of Congress go on a talk show and pull the "I have a friend in Canada ..." bullshit I send off an email to that congressman's office to inform him that I HAD TWO FRIENDS IN THIS COUNTRY die because the insurance companies figured it was more profitable for them to die slowly than receive treatments that would have cured them.
What genius figured that the best business model for our healthcare system would be to introduce a third party who doesn't care about patient care, and have that third party be the lynchpin we hang our system on?
Posted by C is for cookie
at September 22, 2009 10:41 AM
comment #5
Colin
says ...
That man is Dr. Paul Ellwood, Cookie.
Speaking of which even he (the man who created HMO's) is saying we need to reform health-care.
Posted by Colin
at September 22, 2009 10:47 AM
comment #6
Jonah
says ...
Well Lex, thankfully you will never be a celebrity.
Problem solved.
And I'd love it if you'd point out where you came up with the "48 states" figure.
I personally don't know anybody that openly hates and resents actors for telling them how to vote.
I personally don't know of any actors that TELL you how to vote. An actor might drop some info, much like the similarly unqualified Ann Coulter and Glenn Beck, and you have the right to take it into consideration or not.
Posted by Jonah
at September 22, 2009 10:53 AM
comment #7
LexG
says ...
"I personally don't know anybody that openly hates and resents actors for telling them how to vote."
I sure as shit do. I call most of them "uncle."
I also work with a bunch of "conservative sketch comics" and this little video above would, in their minds, suddenly equate Will Ferrell with Che Guevara. Honestly, you've never met a conservative or read a conservative blog, like Big Hollywood, where *Letterman* of all genial comic sacred cows, is regarded as if he's Karl Marx?
Never heard of O'Reilly impotent (like he goes to movies anyway) war on Sean Penn movies?
I have friends and family all over the South and places like Ohio and PA and Virginia, and they hate being talked down to by actors-- fuck it, they hate actors expressing ANY political opinion -- more than just about anything in the world.
Posted by LexG
at September 22, 2009 11:00 AM
comment #8
Colin
says ...
I have family like that too, but they are all wealthy. They have no idea what it is like to struggle month-to-month.
So I don't really give a shit about what they think.
Posted by Colin
at September 22, 2009 11:08 AM
comment #9
Travis Crabtree
says ...
These sorts of things always serve a good purpose.... to make the celebrities involved feel good about themselves. It's also delicious candy for those who agree verbatim. ("Will Ferrel and I agree on the single payer matter")
It's fun to watch.
But really. Are these things ever really effective? Even if you're down with every word, do you really think that somebody in Indiana who is against Obama's health plan will come across this and say, "well shit.... I had no idea the comely Linda Cardellini was for health care reform... color me convinced!"
Oh well. It's cute and I'm sure they had fun making it.
Also... fellow Mizzou Tiger Jon Hamm rules... and I've loved Linda since Freaks and Geeks.
Posted by Travis Crabtree
at September 22, 2009 11:17 AM
comment #10
LexG
says ...
Most of the friends/distant relatives "back home" in my anecdotal case are big military families or very working-class Republicans, but trust me, the mere mention of the name Clooney, Baldwin, or especially Penn (or, basically, the word "Hollywood" in general) sets them off like the word "journalist" would set off Hunnam's soccer club in "Green Street Hooligans."
It boggles the mind that someone could have not encountered ANY of this, as Jonah claimed.
Posted by LexG
at September 22, 2009 11:19 AM
comment #11
Colin
says ...
Nice Hooligans reference. Depending on where Jonah lives that might be true, but where I am from I hear about it constantly until I got to Reno anyway.
Posted by Colin
at September 22, 2009 11:24 AM
comment #12
CitizenKanedforChewingGum
says ...
"I have friends and family all over the South and places like Ohio and PA and Virginia, and they hate being talked down to by actors"
Gee, I really can't imagine your family, friends, or people that associate with you hating anything!
Posted by CitizenKanedforChewingGum
at September 22, 2009 11:33 AM
comment #13
Vernon Hardapple
says ...
Thats because your "Uncles" are so wrapped in their ridiculously dogmatic beliefs, they need enemies in order to justify those ignorant thinking. Though, I hate to say so, but I do agree. Jonah's statement is really quite naive.
Go figure, you work with a bunch of "Conservative Sketch Comics", Lex G. Do they help you to find meaning in all your hate-spewing and misogyny? And really, CONSERVATIVE sketch comedy!? I'm sure the laughs begin and end with such labeling.
Posted by Vernon Hardapple
at September 22, 2009 11:39 AM
comment #14
LexG
says ...
Vern...
To clarify, they also work at my "day job." I'm not in their wack troupe or anything. And you WOULD NOT BELIEVE what constitutes "conservative sketch comedy." Mostly my day consists of me fake-grinning in agonizing pain like Alvy Singer when they bring in that hack comic in "Annie Hall," listening to these douchebags a capella their offensive, unfunny *songs* about Obama being a Socialist.
I don't understand what your "do they help you find meaning..." question means at all. But you'd be spewing some hate too if you had to stand there inching away from this shit like you're being hasseled for change at 7-11 at 3am.
Posted by LexG
at September 22, 2009 11:45 AM
comment #15
televisiontears
says ...
I don't understand this notion that celebrities who have been given a venue to express their beliefs shouldn't take advantage. Sure, there are some who think that since people know their face, that somehow makes their opinion more valid. But if you're passionate about a particular issue, why wouldn't you use every opportunity to raise awareness or make your voice heard?
But, NO! You shut up a dance for me, monkey! Dance!
Posted by televisiontears
at September 22, 2009 12:16 PM
comment #16
C is for cookie
says ...
Colin, thanks for naming the culprit.
I have to agree with Lex on one point -- this video is preaching to the choir and won't change the mind of someone who is conviced Obama is the lovechild of Hitler and Karl Marx. The only thing it might do is make them throw their copy of Anchorman out the window of their rusty pickup the next time they're speeding along a gravel road.
Posted by C is for cookie
at September 22, 2009 12:18 PM
comment #17
GKLondon
says ...
LexG, arew you employed by an insurance company? If you're not, you fucking should be, you are doing EXACTLY what they are doing: making the issue about some attendant bullshit like 'actors' having 'opinions' and 'expressing them' like that's some crime, instead of the cold hard fact that insurance companies, the companies charged with looking out for you in times of need, will fuck you given half the chance to save some money.
Actors telling you this shouldn't make it any more fucked up.
Posted by GKLondon
at September 22, 2009 12:37 PM
comment #18
LexG
says ...
I'm not taking a side on it, GK; Was just pointing out that Red State America doesn't like being preached to by Will Ferrell and the hot chick from E.R. Personally, hey, if they had Jessica Alba or Megan Fox telling me how to vote, I'd vote that way just because they gave me a boner.
I'm 100% apolitical. And if I were an actor? I wouldn't give a damn about ANYTHING political; I'd be too busy banging chicks and counting my money.
Call it my Tommy Lee Theory on life. In the 30 years since Motley Crue broke, there's been war, strife, crime, riots, fires, floods, terror attacks, epidemics... and through it all, YOU KNOW Tommy was just rockin' out on drums, chillin' wih a drink in one hand and two porn starlets on either side, grinnin' and good-natured and not caring for a second about anything else but sex, drugs and rock n roll.
And that dude's still got a great head of hair and looks 23 years old and gets mad chicks and is happier than any of us who actually worry about this shit that WE CAN'T CONTROL.
Posted by LexG
at September 22, 2009 12:46 PM
comment #19
GKLondon
says ...
Yeah man, but we can't all be Tommy Lee, I mean, who would be the hookers and sell us drugs?
Health Care, in a democracy, is supposed to be something that you can control. If 80% of the people dig a single payer option, then it must be so. Can this 80% go to the next town hall with THEIR guns? Please!
And shoot that arrogant fuck Tommy Lee on the way. He's been riding a gravy train that we put him on for 30 years.
Is Tommy fucking Lee really your gold standard? Oh, and
the Crue suck balls.
Shit, now you've got me all distracted and talking about dickhead B-list celebrities who gave up whatever useless bullshit got them famous 30 years ago to become a 'personality'.
Posted by GKLondon
at September 22, 2009 12:54 PM
comment #20
LexG
says ...
Honestly? I have three college degrees, and I listen to these blowhards on Maher and O'Reilly and Olbermann and Beck... and I STILL have no idea what "single payer" and "public options" mean. None of it makes ANY sense to me, whatsoever. If the terminology is utterly impenetrable to me, you really think some redneck yay-hoo is gonna take the time to sort this out? Or is he just gonna hear "socialist" and want to keep things the devil they know?
CRUE POWER.
Posted by LexG
at September 22, 2009 1:02 PM
comment #21
CitizenKanedforChewingGum
says ...
Wow -- do you really want to be Tommy Lee?
Jesus Christ, you may actually need more help than I ever imagined
Posted by CitizenKanedforChewingGum
at September 22, 2009 1:02 PM
comment #22
LexG
says ...
Why, pray tell, WOULDN'T you want to be Tommy Lee?
Famous, awesome, bangs hot chicks, millionaire, good hair, in great shape and super thin despite 30 years of apparent drinking and drugging, hangs out with awesome rappers and metal dudes, has a genial and likable personality.
Where's the downside? Class envy is the stupidest thing ever. Just admit the guy's got you licked when it comes to being a human being.
NOW SOMEONE TELL ME WHAT SINGLE PAYER MEANS.
Does that mean you have an insurance where you're a dude paying it singly? NO ONE EXPLAINS THESE TERMS, EVER. Not even Obama.
All I know is I go to a job where I make 75K and when I started I signed up for health insurance, so that's that. I don't know what the FUCK a single payer is, I don't know what they're fighting for.... what's so bad about your job just offering you like Blue Cross or Kaiser or some other thing, and you say, yeah, that's what I want, and you pick a doctor in that plan, and that's who you go to?
Is single payer like each single person who has insurance pays whoever they want? EXPLAIN IT. SLOWLY.
Posted by LexG
at September 22, 2009 1:09 PM
comment #23
GKLondon
says ...
http://www.pnhp.org/facts/what_is_single_payer.php
That is single payer.
It means that taxes are used to give everyone health care. Yes it is prone to waste and corruption as much as any other institution, but it does guarantee health care for all. And that's the point. It does not, however, mean you cannot have private health care. I'm from Dublin, and have lived in many countries the world over, and have had experiences in private clinics and standard public hospitals. Some were good, some were not so good, none compared to NOT going to the hospital at all.
Posted by GKLondon
at September 22, 2009 1:31 PM
comment #24
Jonah
says ...
To clarify,
I'm sure there are people like that. Most of them exist on the internet, as anonymous rednecks on blogs.
The rest of them are so idiotic, so off my radar, that I don't really count them as people. They are the thugs that listen to Limbaugh as if he's God. They are the thugs that bring their guns to Obama appearances. They are the thugs that are screaming about socialism. They are the thug "birthers".
Most of my family and friends (born and raised in Utah) are very conservative. I consider all of them to be good people. I've talked politics and art with most of them. And none of them have ever said they hate or resent an actor because he TELLS them how to vote.
Posted by Jonah
at September 22, 2009 1:50 PM
comment #25
SaveFarris
says ...
So Will Ferrell,
Exactly what standing do you have to complain about other people making obscene profits?
Posted by SaveFarris
at September 22, 2009 2:05 PM
comment #26
Jonah
says ...
I also think that the "thugs" that claim to hate and resent these actors are all talk. I'm sure they still slapped down their 12 bucks to see the Bourne films despite the presence of the very outspoken liberal actor Matt Damon.
They'll go see the next Will Ferrell dumb comedy. Most of them probably aren't the educated types that would watch Mad Men, but if they do, they won't stop because of this video.
If I hate and resent an actor I won't go see his films. Period.
Savefarris,
Are you really making that comparison?
Posted by Jonah
at September 22, 2009 2:16 PM
comment #27
matt cousens
says ...
Lex always breaks down actors haircuts. It's awesome and lame.
Posted by matt cousens
at September 22, 2009 2:26 PM
comment #28
LexG
says ...
Cousens: No doubt.
Jon Hamm is just Jeff Probst with Sean Connery's "Thunderball" rug.
Posted by LexG
at September 22, 2009 2:29 PM
comment #29
Travis Crabtree
says ...
Good point, Ferris.
I like Will Ferrell, (though it's become kind of hip not to).
Despite what you might think on this issue it is worth pointing out that there is not one single insurance company CEO who has made anywhere near as much money as Ferrell made this past year.
Posted by Travis Crabtree
at September 22, 2009 2:42 PM
comment #30
Jonah
says ...
I'm not surprised you think that's a good point, Travis.
Who cares how you make the money? That isn't relevant at all. Entertaining your fans and screwing over the powerless certainly sounds like a fair comparison.
Posted by Jonah
at September 22, 2009 3:26 PM
comment #31
Rothchild
says ...
SaveFerris:
Will Ferrell doesn't make his money off the death and misery of the American people, you stupid, stupid bastard. If his payment for Anchorman was based on how many crew members died on set than you'd have a point. Are you saying you have to be a communist to have a problem with health care run on a for profit basis?
Posted by Rothchild
at September 22, 2009 5:54 PM
comment #32
LexG
says ...
As predicted, Will Ferrell is now officially an enemy of the teabaggers for this silly video; Check out the vitriol in the comments section here and tell me why you'd ever pipe up about politics if you were an actor or comedian who wanted to reach the widest possible audience without annoying a segment of them so viciously.
Holy shit, these people are fucking nuts:
http://bighollywood.breitbart.com/jjmnolte/2009/09/22/elite-celebs-shill-for-moveon-org-obamacare/
Posted by LexG
at September 22, 2009 5:59 PM
comment #33
Jonah
says ...
Lex,
I'm shocked that most of the morons in your link don't seem to know Jon Hamm. Shocked. Mad Men must be on the same time as Are you Smarter Than a Fifth Grader.
Posted by Jonah
at September 22, 2009 6:12 PM
comment #34
Travis Crabtree
says ...
Jonah is a very, very, very angry little girl. Do not piss her off.
Baron von Rothchild... I'm not, (though I don't speak for Ferris), trying to make a moral equivalence between Will and a CEO.
It's just another reason why these celebrity/political messages aren't as effective as they are fun for those involved.
To Joe Sixpack-Popcorn Jr. it often comes off as one group of pampered multi-millionaires bitching about another group of pampered multi-millionaires. (i.e. "Sure he's funny, but I doubt that dude from 'Land of the Lost' has to worry about escalating premiums or out-patient surcharges")
Posted by Travis Crabtree
at September 22, 2009 7:44 PM
comment #35
Jonah
says ...
Travis,
You lost the right to talk tough to me after you:
Twice threatened me on this forum---
Even going so far as to say you'd come to my city to find me---
I welcomed the chance to meet you in person and told you the exact city I live in---
I emailed you personally---
You never emailed me back.
Chicken shit. That's what you are. I called your bluff and you reacted like the little girl coward that you are.
You have words. Not actions. People know the difference.
And the way you backed off on the Will Farrell comment was fucking priceless.
Pussy.
Posted by Jonah
at September 22, 2009 8:12 PM
comment #36
Travis Crabtree
says ...
Oh yeah.... I KNEW you'd try that.....
"Check's in the mail", right?
You never emailed me..... You're a liar.... and don't even try to lay down some shit about it being a bogus address.... because that will come as some news to the the three HE members who DID email me.... (mostly to say hello and see if it really was me)
even Wells knows that's my email.....
And listen, sister.... I didn't back off on Will Ferrell....
All you ever said was that you lived in Utah.... (that narrows it down, I guess)
Hmmmm.... email inbox is still empty.....
smith3730@roadrunner.com
(so you don't pretend to not remember it)
By the way, anyone else on here want to email me, feel free.... we'll talk movies, latino party elephants, Egyptian screenings and what an angry little girl Jonah is and why she likes to talk like a tough guy from the safety of her mom's kitchen nook.
Forget, the email, Joanie.... tell us "exactly what city" you live in here.
Real tough chick, that Jonah.
Posted by Travis Crabtree
at September 23, 2009 12:39 AM
comment #37
Jonah
says ...
I emailed you twice, pussy. And I'll email you again right now.
How sad that you resort to "little girl" comments. How very sad.
You got my email, coward.
You've got real masculinity issues.
I'll email you again. But just so you get it, I live in Ogden, Utah. Now you can't claim to not know.
I'll email you for the third time now. Maybe this time you'll find your sack and respond. My guess is you'll continue to claim that you didn't get it.
Real bitch movie, son.
Posted by Jonah
at September 23, 2009 1:54 AM
comment #38
Jonah
says ...
Travis,
I know you like to puff up your chest and show off your internet muscles for everybody here. But this isn't the time or place. You've got something to say to me, say it in the email (you can respond to any of my three emails I've sent over the past two weeks). Don't say it here. Nobody here gives a shit about your mommy issues, your false bravado, or your ability to talk shit about me on a thread I haven't even responded on.
Save it for the email or for when you visit me in person, as if that'll ever happen. I think you left your balls in your momma's mouth.
Posted by Jonah
at September 23, 2009 2:14 AM
comment #39
LexG
says ...
Damn, bros...
Just my two cents, but as someone who gets mad hate here and on Poland's blog and can't believe people take all this Internet stone-busting so seriously... Like, life's too short. Call a truce. I'm always taken aback when someone chimes in here or there that, like, I should KILL MYSELF because I like a certain movie or have certain (non) politics or my jokes aren't funny or I talk too much about some actress I'll probably never meet, just trying to get a laugh or some validation.
You guys REALLY want to come to blows or even trade roid-rage emails and get your blood pressure up over some BLOG COMMENTING SHIT? Smoke a figurative peace pipe or some shit or just agree to disagree. Fake-fighting on some other dude's blog isn't worth all this rage.
Not that it isn't plenty entertaining, but still.
Posted by LexG
at September 23, 2009 2:20 AM
comment #40
SaveFarris
says ...
I'm shocked that most of the morons in your link don't seem to know Jon Hamm.
I'm not. Despite the accolades, Mad Men is still an extremely niche show with ratings that, while boffo for AMC, are still quite poor in the Entertainment universe overall. Add in that Hamm isn't in his Draper getup and the lack of recognizance isn't that surprising.
Posted by SaveFarris
at September 23, 2009 1:09 PM