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This morning I heard from and then spoke to restoration guru Robert Harris (The Godfather, Lawrence of Arabia, Vertigo, Spartacus) about my 9.18 reaction to the forthcoming Wizard of Oz Blu-ray -- i.e, "much sharper and more vivid, bursting with color, splendorific," etc. Harris admires the disc as much as I do and probably more so. He's fine with the grain. But he didn't disagree with my observation about it being "somewhat grainier," and conceded that the film now looks different than the one that 1939 audiences saw.

The new Wizard is an example of "a basic Blu-ray trade-off," I wrote. "The grain that is in the negative is brought out in a way that catches your eye like never before. It's not a problem, but there's no ignoring it. I'm not putting the grainy aspect down, per se. I fully respect the decision of Warner Home Video technicians not to clean or digitally tweak or Patton-ize the original 1939 elements -- but I am saying that Dorothy Gale, Auntie Em, Uncle Henry and the three farm hands are now covered in billions of micro-mosquitoes that I hadn't been as aware of in years past."
Harris wrote that "viewers in 1939, 1954 and beyond never saw the grain in Technicolor films because the process did not reproduce it. Between the optics of the era, the optical printing process toward the creation of printing matrices, the metal dye imbibition system, the mordant in use at the time, as well as imperfect registration, which was covered by the overall softness...Technicolor films had a wonderful, almost grain-free, velvety look, which is nothing like the new Blu-ray.
"There are many ways to skin a cat. The new Wizard of Oz Blu-ray, which faithfully reproduces the grain structure of the original negatives (with the exception of the opening reel, which is from a dupe source), is one of them.
"Leaving the original grain structure in was a technical decision. WHV technicians have delivered an excellent piece of work, but the Oz Blu-ray has a pronounced grain that wasn't there when audiences first saw the film. The image is now very sharp, albeit with the original grain structure. But trying to eliminate the grain can lead to a very tenuous situation at best, as each shot must be worked over to make certain that problems do not arise."

We then spoke on the phone and Harris re-explained:
"There are many ways to reduce grain," he said. "Either you throw the film out of focus, which is what most people do, and then you sharpen it slightly and raise the contrast. Or you send it to Lowry Digital, which is the only shop in town which has the ability to reduce grain without losing resolution.
"The people who made The Wizard of Oz 70 years ago knew what would show up and what wouldn't," he pointed out. "The final result was a beautiful, velvety, slightly soft-focus print with good contrast to it, and it looked gorgeous on screen.
"But if you take the original negattve and then show it to the public [as WHV has with its new Blu-ray], you're going to see the original grain structure that the original audiences never saw. But if you remove it...if you remove the grain and you hold the resolution then you're going to see the wigs and make-up, sets, costume details all the other problems.
"The other way - the Lowry way -- is to remove the grain, increase the resolution and then put back in a slight level of grain to make it look like film. But one has to acknowledge that whomever is leading the project is going to have to carefully examine every shot in the film to make very certain that they aren't opening the proverbial Pandora's box, and creating problems that were never there before.
"Warner Home Video did nothing wrong. They did a great job within their criteria, and I don't have a problem with it. God knows if you lessen any grain on an older film in any primitve way, you're really asking for trouble. Like Fox got into trouble with the overly scrubbed-down Blu-rays of Patton and The Longest Day.

"And if you take all the grain out, as the Lowry people can, it's like you're watching the actors through a very clean window. But with older films, like Michael Curtiz's Robin Hood, removing too much grain can make some of the armor looks like painted cardboard, and then you're seeing things that were never meant to be seen."
Harris suggested at the end of our conversation that I might want to slightly turn down the sharpness level on my 42-inch plasma. I said I might. But then I thought about this later on and reminded myself that I adore the sharpness level, and that pretty much every Blu-ray I've watched on it looks fantastic so why should I futz around with it just so The Wizard of Oz looks less grainy?
Posted by Jeffrey Wells on September 19, 2009 at 10:06 AM
comment #1
TheCahuengaKid
says ...
Read what my medal says: "Grain". Ain't it the truth? Ain't it the truth?
Posted by TheCahuengaKid
at September 19, 2009 11:09 AM
comment #2
erniesouchak
says ...
It takes about 2 seconds to tweak the sharpness level for a given DVD presentation, Wells. You can always change it back!
Posted by erniesouchak
at September 19, 2009 11:19 AM
comment #3
NotImpressed1Yet
says ...
For the vast majority of TV's out there, proper calibration entails turning the sharpness level way, way down (for some TV's, all the way to zero even). This and the severe dialing-down of picture/contrast levels are the two aspects of proper calibration that unsettle most at first. It makes for a dramatic change in what the picture looks like, and many people seeing it for the first time are freaked out because they think they don't like it. But they're just not giving it a chance. I guarantee you if you change your settings to those those recommended by the Imaging Science Foundation (they're the authority on this I think) and give it a chance for a week, you'll realize that it is by far a superior image.
I strongly suspect that Jeffrey Wells does not have his TV calibrated correctly. If he disagrees, I'd like him to state how he did it.
Independent from this, I also kinda sorta think that when it comes to home theater, Wells falls into Joe Six Pack territory (albeit with better taste in cinema).
Posted by NotImpressed1Yet
at September 19, 2009 11:50 AM
comment #4
NotImpressed1Yet
says ...
One more comment - it is completely kickass that Wells is able to get Robert Harris into the mix every now and then on this blog. That guy is a genius and it's always fun to read his opinions and thoughts on this stuff!
Posted by NotImpressed1Yet
at September 19, 2009 11:53 AM
comment #5
Geoff
says ...
Awesome to get a response from this guy. Lowry Digital seems to be the way to go, but that's just my opinion.
But Wells, If you have your sharpness setting way up, I'd experiment with turning it down. Sharpness adds artificial lines and edges to certain objects. Some people turn their sharpness settings all the way down.
Posted by Geoff
at September 19, 2009 1:00 PM
comment #6
Jeffrey Wells
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I don't have my sharpness turned way up. The max is level 25, and I have it set to 15. Each and every film I have in my library looks perfect at this setting. Sure, I can take the sharpness down for my Oz viewings, but there's nothing wrong or extreme about my sharpness settings.
Posted by Jeffrey Wells
at September 19, 2009 1:15 PM
comment #7
NotImpressed1Yet
says ...
With respect, your last post pretty much confirms that you have absolutely no idea what you're talking about on this issue. 15 out of 25 is almost certainly way too high for your sharpness setting.
You've never calibrated your TV using a disc like Video Essentials or Avia, have you.
You can buy the blu-ray edition of Video Essentials from Amazon for $16. It borders on blogger-malpractice for you to comment on blu-ray image quality if your TV isn't properly calibrated and you can do it for under $20!
http://www.amazon.com/Digital-Video-Essentials-Basics-Blu-ray/dp/B000V6LST0/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=dvd&qid=1253393543&sr=8-1
Posted by NotImpressed1Yet
at September 19, 2009 1:39 PM
comment #8
erniesouchak
says ...
I've also had good luck with the THX Optimizer, which is, I think, included on every DVD with THX sound. Don't know if there's a Blu-ray version yet, though...is THX sound on Blu-ray discs?
Posted by erniesouchak
at September 19, 2009 7:42 PM
comment #9
Hans F
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Seconding Video Essentials. "Sharpness" on most consumer HDTVs is nothing but a post-processing filter similar to what DVD reviewers call "edge enhancement". It should usually be turned all the way down if you want to see what's actually in the source material.
Posted by Hans F
at September 21, 2009 12:12 AM
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