Turn Me On, Dead Man

Will Ferrell's track record over the last five years (and particularly the titanic failure of Land of the Lost) has earned him the title of Hollywood's most overpaid actor, according to an intensive survey announced a day or two ago by Forbes.com.


The survey is not, in other words, a portrait of who's hot and who's not right now, but a specially focused statistical assessment of the last five years. So Ferrell doesn't have to put on shades and a fishing hat and drive out to Indio and rent an apartment there under an assumed name. He's damaged, yes, but tomorrow is another day.

Never look back. Always look forward. Statistics always lie. Those who stand on train-station platforms and take notes about the size and speed of the trains pulling into the station and/or whizzing by at bullet speeds aren't on them, and therefore they don't really get it.

Ewan MacGregor was named the second most overpaid actor, Billy Bob Thornton came in third, Eddie Murphy (taken down by the bombing of Meet Dave and Imagine That) ranked fourth, and Tom Cruise (decimated by Lions for Lambs and to a lesser extent by Valkyrie) came in sixth. Oher top-tenners include Leonardo DiCaprio, Drew Barrymore and Jim Carrey.

Forbes began with a list of the 100 biggest stars in Hollywood who had starred over the last five years in at least three movies that opened in more than 500 theaters. The team then calculated a return-on-investment number for each star by dividing total operating income on the three films by the star's total compensation, including up-front salaries and earnings from DVD and TV sales.

Forbes.com claims to offer a review of the full list but in fact refuses to do so. Go to the page and there's no click-through option to the list -- only one that takes you back to the main story

Ferrell's films earned $3.29 for every dollar he was paid. A Hollywood Reporter story noted a contrast to the $160 that Shia LaBeouf's movies returned to the studios for every buck he earned. "No, no, no" LaBeouf -- who starred in Transformers in 2007 and Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull in 2008 -- sits at the top of Forbes list of Best Actors for the Buck (which you also can't click on).

Also included on Forbes' best-earner list are Robert Downey Jr., Christian Bale and Dennis Quaid. Wait...Dennis Quaid?

Side note: My guess is that 95% to 97% of the readers of the piece have no idea what "turn me on, dead man" is. Or where it came from, I mean.

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Posted by Jeffrey Wells on November 20, 2009 at 5:11 AM

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EnglishBob Author Profile Page says ...

"Number nine.....number nine....number nine.....number nine..."

Posted by EnglishBob Author Profile Page at November 20, 2009 6:17 AM

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Alvy Singer Author Profile Page says ...

It's not science, but you could say that a star's true power is getting people to see a crappy movie. Let's face it, if somebody pays to see Land of the Lost or Semi-Pro, it's because they want to see Will Ferrel. Those films didn't do well, but whatever millions they did make should be attributed to the star's ability to bring in fans. Because it sure wasn't a quality script, special effects, whatever.

Shia LeBouf, on the other hand is just a cog. He's a talented guy, but nobody is paying to see Indiana Jones or Transformers to see his special brand of moxie.

Posted by Alvy Singer Author Profile Page at November 20, 2009 6:22 AM

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Rich S. Author Profile Page says ...

It's too bad Ferrell didn't charge for those Pearl shorts he released a year or two ago. If he had, he might well be considered the biggest bargain in Hollywood right now. The landlady short is the funniest comedy I've seen in the last decade.

Posted by Rich S. Author Profile Page at November 20, 2009 6:25 AM

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kamichojin Author Profile Page says ...

Not being a Beatles person, this is the 1st thing I thought of when I read the post title:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GtgY3aho_wk

"I buried Flanders"
-H. Simpson

Posted by kamichojin Author Profile Page at November 20, 2009 6:32 AM

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Sabina E Author Profile Page says ...

Will Ferrell is definitely overpaid... and overrated.

Posted by Sabina E Author Profile Page at November 20, 2009 8:09 AM

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Mark Author Profile Page says ...

Shia is definitely more than a cog RE box office. I'd bet that he would have opened Body of Lies to a lot more than $13M.

If i had $20M to spend on casting, I'd split it between Shia, Meryll Streep, and Kevin James. I just need a plot now. (And Ewan McGregor will definitely not be involved.)

Posted by Mark Author Profile Page at November 20, 2009 8:25 AM

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cm65 Author Profile Page says ...

The Forbes list has one actor per page, with a big arrow on the right, marked 'Next'.

Posted by cm65 Author Profile Page at November 20, 2009 8:39 AM

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Eloi Manning Author Profile Page says ...

Shia did alright with Eagle Eye, didn't he?

Fuck me, that was a weird film. The opening half an hour was great. Then I don't even know what the fuck happened after that. It turned into some sci-fi dogshit. I can barely remember it now.

Posted by Eloi Manning Author Profile Page at November 20, 2009 8:40 AM

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SmilingPolitely Author Profile Page says ...

Yeah, don't underestimate The Beef. Certainly no straight male is seeing Tranformers, Indy, Eagle Eye, etc. for Labeouf. But with young women, it's a different story. That guy can get chicks wet.

Posted by SmilingPolitely Author Profile Page at November 20, 2009 8:50 AM

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Gaydos Author Profile Page says ...

There are always people who want to run Hollywood like it's a packaged goods business. Coca-Cola tried and today's toy tie-in studio moguls are certainly giving it a good shot, ie making movies about as interesting as a six pack of soda pop. But if the studio moguls love to make franchise movies where the actors are unimportant and the "brand" or "franchise" is the star, let's be consistent. No credit to Shia for acting in the Baybusters, no demerit to Will for trying something interesting like "Stranger Than Fiction."

And don't get me started on how pathetically anti-creativity this is. Things are bad enough in these times when nothing that is not derived from a Tonka Toy or a comic book gets the studio chiefs' hearts a flutter. I will pray to "Baby Jesus" that this is all just a fad.

Posted by Gaydos Author Profile Page at November 20, 2009 9:39 AM

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QualityGibberish Author Profile Page says ...

"You pay now! I got to get my drink on."

Posted by QualityGibberish Author Profile Page at November 20, 2009 10:02 AM

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Colin Author Profile Page says ...

The list is based on the past 3 films each actor did, how fair is that? DiCaprio won't be anywhere near that list next year.

These list are idiotic anyway.

Posted by Colin Author Profile Page at November 20, 2009 10:06 AM

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Floyd Thursby Author Profile Page says ...

McGregor is the 21st century equivalent of Pat O'Brien, Van Johnson, and Glen Ford. He must have some agent.

Posted by Floyd Thursby Author Profile Page at November 20, 2009 10:09 AM

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TL Author Profile Page says ...

Eddie Murphy and Jim Carey are done as mega-salary stars. Tom Cruise will always be one movie away from a comeback. Will Farrell is back the next time he makes a "[Oddball Profession] : The [Legend/Story/Saga/Epic/Tale/Ballad/etc.] of [Goofy Proper Name]" movie. Drew Barrymore is going to work more and more behind the camera.

Billy Bob Thornton, Ewan McGreggor, and Leonardo Di Caprio are just laughing all the way to the bank that they've been able to command mega salaries to begin with; they'll work for less because acting is just what they do. (Except maybe Thornton; he might just kick it with his band.)

Posted by TL Author Profile Page at November 20, 2009 10:25 AM

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TL Author Profile Page says ...

Oh, and also, fuck Jim Carrey for all the kids who are going to get sick or die because he and his girlfriend think they're smarter than doctors.

Posted by TL Author Profile Page at November 20, 2009 10:28 AM

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Eloi Manning Author Profile Page says ...

Will Ferrell's problem is that he seems to enjoy screaming far more than his fans do. If you look at his most popular characters/impersonations - Ron Burgundy, Alex Trebek, James Lipton, George Bush - they're all fairly restrained and the humour comes from what they say rather than how loud they deliver it. Burgundy had a few loud outbursts but on the whole the enduring popularity comes from the wit and the quotable lines.

All his less popular movies have the bellowing manchild version of Ferrell.

Posted by Eloi Manning Author Profile Page at November 20, 2009 10:53 AM

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drbob Author Profile Page says ...

Jenny McCarthy thinks she's smarter than doctors. Jim Carrey just wants to keep getting laid.

Posted by drbob Author Profile Page at November 20, 2009 11:55 AM

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Terry McCarty Author Profile Page says ...

Re TL's post:
If I were Will Ferrell, I'd get the ANCHORMAN sequel going as fast as possible. Unless Will's waiting to see how the buddy-cop comedy he's doing now fares at the box office.

Posted by Terry McCarty Author Profile Page at November 20, 2009 11:59 AM

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lazarus Author Profile Page says ...

While McGregor certainly has been in a lot of poor-performing films and made some questionable choices, I'm not sure why everyone gangs up on him. Guy was fantastic in Down With Love, Moulin Rouge, and he certainly brought his A-Game in the final Star Wars film (and about half of Clones). He also did a very good job in Cassandra's Dream and Young Adam. That's just this decade.

He's far from consistent, but there are certainly actors with worse track records. And at least he has some versatility.

Posted by lazarus Author Profile Page at November 20, 2009 12:20 PM

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jodygreeneyes Author Profile Page says ...

Is that Heidi Klum? Is this from a film? Damn if it is Heidi, then WOW!

Posted by jodygreeneyes Author Profile Page at November 20, 2009 12:50 PM

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dinther Author Profile Page says ...

The logic behind these statistics seems a bit specious. It corrolates the appearance of an actor directly to a film's performance and leaves out other significant factors, post hoc ergo propter hoc. Was it marketed? Were there other reasons to watch/not watch the film (e.g., a toy-tie in movie)?

Giving credit to LeBeouf for the success of Transformers is like crediting Joe Biden for President Obama's election victory. He was there, sure, but he wasn't the drawing card.

Posted by dinther Author Profile Page at November 20, 2009 12:55 PM

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Rich S. Author Profile Page says ...

Jody, the photo is from a promo spread Sports Illustrated did with Will and Heidi when Semi Pro came out. Do a quick search, there's a lot more photos out there. And yes, Heidi looks good in every one of them.

Posted by Rich S. Author Profile Page at November 20, 2009 12:57 PM

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solus Author Profile Page says ...

I think it is giving actors a little too much credit for the success or failure of a film. Is that the point of this list? to bring that into focus. A film does not have to "land" a major actor to be a success, it just tends to put the budget higher and the break even point subsequently higher as well.

Posted by solus Author Profile Page at November 20, 2009 1:13 PM

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corey3rd Author Profile Page says ...

Didn't Jeff Goldblume dominate this a decade ago?

Posted by corey3rd Author Profile Page at November 20, 2009 1:19 PM

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Mark Author Profile Page says ...

The fact that Ewan McGregor has previously done strong work is the reason that we now must criticize. Not the other way around. We want him back; not the pod replacement that slept through Angels, Demons, and Goats.

Posted by Mark Author Profile Page at November 20, 2009 1:23 PM

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George Prager Author Profile Page says ...

Quaid OWNS in WYATT EARP!!!!!!!

Posted by George Prager Author Profile Page at November 20, 2009 2:45 PM

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polarbear Author Profile Page says ...

So Ferrel, Murphy, and Carrey are done for. Its no big deal. Comedians have a shorter shelf life than most movie actors. Senses of humor change over time. Even Charlie Chaplin and the Marx Brothers had to ditch their film careers at some point.

This Forbes study is ridiculously un-scientific. Being in a big hit can help an actor's career, but no way in hell does it mean they can take credit for it. This is where actors like Sandra Bullock do well. She rarely appears in blockbuster hits. However since her movies aren't classic comic-book adaptations, video-game franchises, or sfx extravaganzas; and she never acts opposite a leading man who's a bigger draw than she is; she can plausibly take credit for every ticket sold to her bargain budget movies.

Posted by polarbear Author Profile Page at November 20, 2009 3:52 PM

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DeeZee Author Profile Page says ...

I'm surprised Will Smith was considered overpaid, because other than Wild Wild West, and maybe Bagger Vance, I can't think of any real bombs he's had lately. As for LaBeouf, he's only been in two movies not based on well-known franchises[Correction. Three if I count Charlie's Angels 2; but that was probably a brief appearance.] ; and those were released in-between TF and TF 2. Not to mention that there's any guarantee that Disturbia and Eagle Eye couldn't have made money without him. That Hayden X-Men wannabe thing did alright, too, after all. So he might encounter a similar cold reception to Wall Street 2 as Fox did with Jennifer's Body.

"Wait...Dennis Quaid?"

Probably best earner for what he's paid.

Mark: You're just saying that now, but wait until Wall Street 2 and the inevitable casting of him as the lead in the Metal Gear Solid movie[kidding, I hope.] before confirming it.

Smiling: "But with young women, it's a different story. That guy can get chicks wet."

I thought girls are just dragged to TF by their geek boyfriends the way guys are dragged to see Twilight and Titanic.

Colin: Shutter Island finally looks like a good Leo pic, but the marketing appears to be banking too much on him, and not the horror aspect.

TL: I thought Murphy was done, too, but the guy made bank on Norbit. He'll have to go through a few more "My Name is Dave"-like bombs to be declared over. Hopefully, Shrek 4 will be the beginning of it all. Carrey did still probably make money on that Seuss cartoon; and X-mas Carol would've done worse without him. So he's still hanging, too.

Will agree with you on the vaccination thing, though. I mean, seriously, how the fuck does anyone consider a poor woman's Pamela Anderson like Jenny McCarthy an expert on anything, when dating Carrey is probably as high up the ladder she'll get in the biz.

corey: That was before Jurassic Park 2.

Posted by DeeZee Author Profile Page at November 20, 2009 6:01 PM

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Gordon27 Author Profile Page says ...

"It corrolates the appearance of an actor directly to a film's performance and leaves out other significant factors, post hoc ergo propter hoc."

But, being fair to this list, actor's salaries do the same thing when a movie they're in is successful.

Posted by Gordon27 Author Profile Page at November 20, 2009 11:50 PM

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cinefan Author Profile Page says ...

It's ridiculous to call Will Smith overpaid, considering that he just recently broke Tom Hanks' record of most consecutive films earning over $100 mil at the domestic box office.

Posted by cinefan Author Profile Page at November 21, 2009 9:44 AM

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Mgmax, le Corbeau Author Profile Page says ...

Shia Lebeouf's a star if he's starring in somebody else's 30-year-old franchise. So where does that lead him-- Grandson of the Pink Panther? An Adam-12 movie? It's not exactly a recipe for a long and varied career. He's the Bud Cort of our time.

Posted by Mgmax, le Corbeau Author Profile Page at November 21, 2009 12:02 PM

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