comment #1

LYT says ...

You'd never guess from watching this that Kirk was a member of LAFCA, voted in the awards, and had ample chance to participate in the discussions leading up to the awards.

Interesting that as a veteran critic, he seems derisive towards awarding something or someone the majority haven't heard of.

comment #2

Gordon27 says ...

So, I just got back. It's a helluva ride, and it looks amazing, but it's the kind of movie critics aren't supposed to recognize. I wish there'd been one surprising moment in the whole thing.

I can see it winning Best Picture, though; it hits all the right beats and everything.

I definitely came out of 'Titanic' the first time more swept away and enthralled by it, which surprises me.

comment #3

BurmaShave says ...

Seeing it Sunday. I also am not going to be surprised if it wins Best Picture. Which wouldn't be surprising, since I don't doubt that it's better than UP IN THE AIR. Considering TRUE LIES is better than UP IN THE AIR.

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raquelswell says ...

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comment #5

Ray says ...

Saw it last night ... still have yet to write a review. Great effects, of course, because the damned thing cost $400 million (as opposed to $75 million that Van Helsing got to create its world). There is some really stupid stuff here (giant mecha warriors with giant machine guns and giant knives???) and the script is paint-by-numbers, new-age drivel.

I dunno ... it's worth seeing in theaters, and it's a decent film, but by no means is it the next evolutionary step in the development of the human race.

comment #6

markj says ...

The thing I loved most about Avatar is that it had soul. And as I keep saying it's just nice to see action sequences that are EXCITING, well designed, shot and edited. Cameron is the master of this kind of cinema.

The critics saying the film has no plot, or that the dialogue is weak make me laugh. Star Wars didn't exactly have a screenplay by Proust. These people have spent so long bitching and whining on the internet they've forgotten what wonder and joy is all about. Besides, compared to the 'screenplays' for Transformers, G.I. Joe, Star Trek and Terminator: Salvation, Avatar's screenplay is outstanding.

comment #7

Gordon27 says ...

'Star Trek' I'd disagree with; 'Star Trek' is dumb in much more fun ways than 'Avatar'.

comment #8

Gordon27 says ...

I only mean they're on par with each other, not that 'Star Trek's script is any better. 'Avatar' reminded me of the script of an old-school 'Star Trek' episode [but, surprisingly, I don't think the crowd I saw it with was geeky enough to understand if I had shouted "I-- Am--- KIROK!" at some point].

comment #9

markj says ...

Star Trek looked to me like the work of a TV director, there was nothing cinematic about it. In contrast, from the moment Jake opens his eyes at the start of Avatar the whole film is a cinematic toybox. Loved it, can't wait to see it again.

comment #10

Gabriel says ...

I agree 100% on everything you just said, markj. I caught the Arclight 12:01 last night and it blew me away. Not quite my choice for best film of the year, but it's the best film I've heard seriously discussed for Best Picture.

comment #11

Jeffrey Overstreet says ...

"A cinematic toybox," markj?

Great minds think alike.

http://imagejournal.org/page/blog/dumping-out-the-toybox

Honeycutt's just dealt a serious blow to his credibility as a critic. Yolande Moreau turned in the greatest performance by an actor - male or female - I saw this year. She was in "The Beaches of Agnes" and "Paris je t'aime" and "Amelie." Her list of career films is impressive - 62 titles long. "An actress nobody ever heard of"? It's gonna take the Jaws of Life to pry Honeycutt's foot out of his mouth.

comment #12

Gordon27 says ...

mark - sorry, to clarify, I meant the screenplays are comprably bad. The movie is astounding on so many levels that it just seems unusual that he holds everything except the script to such high standards.

That it is never as bad as it could be is a testament to Cameron as a director; he's definitely inventing a new language of 3-D. But any time it gets bad, it's all the script's fault. I can see why people criticize the script, though I can't see not enjoying it in spite of that.

comment #13

Terry McCarty says ...

Perhaps Kirk Honeycutt now believes in consensus--like a lot of the writers about critics' awards do.

comment #14

Terry McCarty says ...

Re Cameron as his own screenwriter: a good comparison would be to Tom Laughlin. There's the same kind of spell-it-out-obviousness to both BILLY JACK and TITANIC.

comment #15

Gordon27 says ...

Good call on 'Billy Jack', especially when you throw in the Indian stuff. [If Cameron does a sequel to 'Avatar', you can be *positive* that it will have a vision quest scene.] Also, "One Tin Soldier" would've been a better end credits song.

I was also reminded of 'Billy Jack' at a great, key moment in 'Fantastic Mr. Fox'.

comment #16

atish says ...

Seeing it Sunday. I also am not going to be surprised if it wins Best Picture. Which wouldn't be surprising, since I don't doubt that it's better than UP IN THE AIR. Considering TRUE LIES is better than UP IN THE AIR.
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comment #17

badpete says ...

So, I just got back. It's a helluva ride, and it looks amazing, but it's the kind of movie critics aren't supposed to recognize. I wish there'd been one surprising moment in the whole thing.

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comment #18

atish says ...

So, I just got back. It's a helluva ride, and it looks amazing, but it's the kind of movie critics aren't supposed to recognize. I wish there'd been one surprising moment in the whole thing.
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comment #19

badpete says ...

Perhaps Kirk Honeycutt now believes in consensus--like a lot of the writers about critics' awards do.

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comment #20

atish says ...

So, I just got back. It's a helluva ride, and it looks amazing, but it's the kind of movie critics aren't supposed to recognize. I wish there'd been one surprising moment in the whole thing.
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comment #21

atish says ...

That it is never as bad as it could be is a testament to Cameron as a director; he's definitely inventing a new language of 3-D. But any time it gets bad, it's all the script's fault. I can see why people criticize the script, though I can't see not enjoying it in spite of that.
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comment #22

atish says ...

Interesting that as a veteran critic, he seems derisive towards awarding something or someone the majority haven't heard of.
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comment #23

atish says ...

My feeling on the matter is - and I know this is an anathema to "liberals" of a certain age - Howard Zinn was ultimately WRONG about "the Great Man" theory of history being a myth; i.e. that "ordinary folk" and "mass movements" were the real driving force of humanity and "great men of history" just took credit for it later.broadband voip service

comment #24

pamelazz says ...

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comment #25

pamelazz says ...

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comment #26

doublexjohn says ...

There is some really stupid stuff here (giant mecha warriors with giant machine guns and giant knives???) and the script is paint-by-numbers, new-age drivel.

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comment #27

pamelazz says ...

It all feels like it's fulfilling a sense of obligation, and that drained some of the joy from the storytelling. The facile thing to say is "Cameron's always like that," only he's not.fax from internet

comment #28

pamelazz says ...

Perhaps Kirk Honeycutt now believes in consensus--like a lot of the writers about critics' awards do. free online voip

comment #29

pamelazz says ...

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comment #30

steven says ...

The Los Angeles Film Critics are well aware that they symbolically uphold critical and artistic standards in a company town known for churning out "product." Perhaps because they're based in Hollywood, LAFCA members may be more aware of what actually goes into the making of a movie (and just how difficult that is, and how unpredictable the result can be).
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comment #31

steven says ...

Accordingly, LAFCA in recent years has added categories the other U.S. critics groups don't acknowledge: music, production design, animation, indie/experimental -- and, each year, a "new generation" award to encourage a promising newcomer, and a "career achievement" award to salute a Hollywood veteran/legend.
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comment #32

pamelazz says ...

I dunno ... it's worth seeing in theaters, and it's a decent film, but by no means is it the next evolutionary step in the development of the human race.email lists

comment #33

doublexjohn says ...

There is some really stupid stuff here (giant mecha warriors with giant machine guns and giant knives???) and the script is paint-by-numbers, new-age drivel.

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