The Great Dede Allen

The death of legendary editor Dede Allen, 86, naturally requires an acknowledgment of her innovations. Those would be (a) shock or jump cuts and (b) running sound from a forthcoming scene before actually cutting to it -- i.e.. "pre-lapping." And yet the biggest feather in Allen's cap has always been (and always will be) her cutting of the country-road massacre finale from Bonnie and Clyde. Still a knockout but truly astonishing back in the day.

I've never forgotten and never will forget that clip of a briefly exhilarated Faye Dunaway looking up at the flying birds just before the roar of gunfire. My favorite description of the carnage what followed was from Pauline Kael -- i.e., a "rag-doll dance of death."

The irony is that Allen allowed assistant Jerry Greenberg to do the actual cutting on this sequence. Allen supervised, of course, but "she let him do that," says Warren Beatty biographer Peter Biskind.

The legend is that Allen borrowed her jump cuts and shock cuts from French nouvelle vague films. And yet Biskind says Allen told him this wasn't so. "She said she never watched very many French new wave films and that she basically got these techniques from working on TV commercials," Biskind recalled this morning.

I've spent the last half-hour searching around for a visual tutorial that explicitly shows how Allen applied her innovations, but no dice so far. You'd think someone would have cut one together by now. Allen has been on the map since 1961, after all, when she landed her first solo editing credit on Robert Rossen's The Hustler.

In the '60s, '70s and '80s Allen's name was a signifier of elegant class-act cinema. Her credits beside Bonnie and Clyde and The Hustler included significant films by Arthur Penn (Alice's Restaurant, Little Big Man, Night Moves and The Missouri Breaks), Paul Newman (Rachel, Rachel, Harry & Son), Warren Beatty (Reds, which was co-edited by Craig McKay), Sidney Lumet (Serpico, Dog Day Afternoon, The Wiz), George Roy Hill (Slaughterhouse-Five, Slap Shot) and Robert Redford (The Milagro Beanfield War).

From 1958's Terror From The Year 5000 through '08's Fireflies in the Garden, Allen edited or co-edited some 31 films. She bailed on editing 1992 to 2000 after taking the job of head of post production at Warner Bros.

Claudia Luther's L.A. Times obit says Allen "was the first film editor -- male or female -- to receive sole credit on a movie for her work," and that "this honor came with Bonnie and Clyde." Okay, maybe...but why does Allen have sole credit as the Hustler editor on the IMDB? I was home I'd run the DVD and double-check. (I'm currently sitting in a motel room on Route 7 in Ridgefield, Connecticut.)

I've always loved the opening-credit sequence in The Hustler, which I presume Allen had something to do with. It basically used footage from various scenes throughout the film (which a first-time viewer obviously wouldn't have the first contextual clue about) and freeze-frame them when the credit pops up -- i.e., "directed by Robert Rossen." I don't know for a fact that Allen came up with this idea, but it would fit into her profile if she did.

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Posted by Jeffrey Wells on April 18, 2010 at 5:20 AM

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Doug Pratt Author Profile Page says ...

The opening credits at 6:40 list Allen as the sole "Film Editor"

Posted by Doug Pratt Author Profile Page at April 18, 2010 5:50 AM

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lipranzer Author Profile Page says ...

She was actually the first editor I'd ever heard of, thanks to William Goldman's "Adventures in the Screen Trade," where he interviews her. And Sidney Lumet talks very well of her in "Making Movies." In interviews I've read with her, she always comes off as intelligent and knowledgeable about movies, and, of course, she's cut some great movies. She will be missed.

Posted by lipranzer Author Profile Page at April 18, 2010 6:23 AM

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larry braverman Author Profile Page says ...

A true pioneer.

A very prescient quote of hers:

"I wonder if we're raising enough people in a generation who are able to sit and look at a scene play out without getting bored if it doesn't change every two seconds. We talk an awful lot about cutting; we talk very little about not lousing something up by cutting just to make it move faster. I'm afraid that's the very thing I helped promulgate. . . . It may come to haunt us, because attention spans are short."

Posted by larry braverman Author Profile Page at April 18, 2010 8:03 AM

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Circumvrent Author Profile Page says ...

She also edited the sex scene from Out of Sight. Rest in peace.

Posted by Circumvrent Author Profile Page at April 18, 2010 8:28 AM

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jackie Author Profile Page says ...

Out of Sight was actually edited by Anne V. Coates who's 84 and still working acording to IMDB.

Posted by jackie Author Profile Page at April 18, 2010 8:57 AM

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MikeSchaeferSF Author Profile Page says ...

Slaughterhouse-Five is one of the great forgotten films of the '70s. Shows up on cable very occasionally and damn was it ahead of its time. Her editing on that is quite amazing.

Posted by MikeSchaeferSF Author Profile Page at April 18, 2010 10:30 AM

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Irving Thalberg Author Profile Page says ...

Jeff, the LAT line you're getting hung-up on is poorly worded. Many editors going back to the dawn of cinema received sole credit for actually cutting the picture (i.e. were the only editor on the film). The barrier that Allen broke with BONNIE & CLYDE was to be the first editor to receive a card dedicated solely to the position in a title sequence. Previous to Allen's credit on that picture, the "Film Editor" and "Edited by" cards had always been lumped in with a number of other technical positions on a shared title card.

Posted by Irving Thalberg Author Profile Page at April 18, 2010 11:25 AM

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arnold stang Author Profile Page says ...

Amazing that as of this hour Variety still hasn't acknowledged her death.

I guess free-lancers don't work weekends.

Posted by arnold stang Author Profile Page at April 18, 2010 11:35 AM

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larry braverman Author Profile Page says ...

Another embarrassing thread.

Hit or miss I guess.

Posted by larry braverman Author Profile Page at April 18, 2010 8:53 PM

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Phatang! Author Profile Page says ...

Thanks for that explanation, Irving. Obviously the sole credit thing made NO SENSE.

I spent a couple of hours with Dede Allen once, and she was funny and unpretentious and extremely helpful.

Posted by Phatang! Author Profile Page at April 18, 2010 9:00 PM

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Edward Author Profile Page says ...

What an amazing filmography. She was one of the great artists of her time. RIP.

Posted by Edward Author Profile Page at April 19, 2010 9:32 AM

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Steve Jobs Author Profile Page says ...

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