comment #1

RyanAdams says ...

>>> "Will Eddie Murphy decline to serve as host in solidarity with Rats, or will he stick? That's the question."

Since Ratner resigned on his own, what would Murphy be implying, by standing united and resigning "in solidarity"?

Wouldn't solidarity mean, "Yeah, I need to resign too, because I'm with Brett: rehearsing IS for fags."

Might happen, but if it does that's exactly what it would signify.

comment #2

lazarus says ...

You know Ratner called Murphy screaming about how the overly-sensitive Fag Mafia ruined their party.

I highly doubt a lesson was actually learned here.

I wonder if they ever considered asking Apatow, and If he would even take the job. You'd get Rogen, Hill, Rudd, Leslie Mann, et al to share the stage, and even bring back Franco in a cameo to make fun of last year's mess.

comment #3

Carl Kolchak says ...

I'm disappointed, I was looking forward to seeing what an Oscar telecast with no rehearsals would have looked like.

comment #4

The Pope says ...

And the Oscar goes to Carl Kolchak.

comment #5

Tristan Eldritch2 says ...

Well, that's a whole heap of baloney in the ass for Ratner.

comment #6

Mike Ock says ...

I'd hire Quentin Tarantino to produce and Dave Chappelle to host. In QT, you get a guy who's a genuine film geek, and well respected in Hollywood. In Chappelle you have a comedian who will bring in young viewers, and has actually been funny in the past 10 years.

comment #7

Eloi Wrath says ...

Matt Stone and Trey Parker.

comment #8

MDOC says ...

At least Mark "Cutback" Davis and Bob "Jungle Death" Gerrard are safe from this particular insult ever being hurled their way again.

comment #9

George Prager says ...

Just get the most boring mainstream people you can find. It's the Oscars, so who gives a shit? All I care about is the In Memoriam. I know that if Justin Beiber died in a plane crash, he would be included and Anna Massey wouldn't.

comment #10

lazarus says ...

A shame that Ratner will not be able to lobby for Heavy D's inclusion.

Too soon?

comment #11

reverent and free says ...

Nice that James Earl Jones will finally get an honorary Oscar, but I was really hoping that they'd give one to Norman Lloyd, the last veteran of Orson Welles' company.

comment #12

baboo says ...

Underperforming Tower Heist did few favors for Murphy. The Oscars -- and maybe a SNL hosting gig -- will be his comeback vehicle by default. Why should he stand by Ratner and his idiot comments? It's not like he owes his career to him, like Chris Tucker or something.

comment #13

Mike Ock says ...

I like Brett Ratner. He's a actually a good guy, based on the few interactions I've had with him over the last 10 years or so, and I believe in my heart of hearts, he's not a homophobe. He's just a guy who tries too hard to be cool, funny, and hip. He wants more than anything to be liked. So he brags about his sexual conquests, and his Hollywood connections, and how much money his movies have made, and I guess talk like that rubs people the wrong way.

That having been said, I haven't seen someone implode like this since Charlie Sheen did it earlier this week. WTF was he thinking?

I hope he's able to land back on his feet and move on from this. If a piece of shit like Roman Polanski or Woody Allen can get a second chance so should he.

comment #14

Mike Ock says ...

I meant to write, Charlie Sheen did it earlier this year.

comment #15

lazarus says ...

@reverent and free: good call on Norman Lloyd. I had the honor to sit next to him at a private dinner party about 10 years ago and he was pretty damned charming.

Not only did he work with Welles, but also Chaplin, Renoir and Hitchcock in the 40's, all the way up to Scorsese and a guest spot on Star Trek TNG in the 90's.

A long and amazing career.

comment #16

Rashad says ...

James Earl Jones' reputation far exceeds his actual output as an actor

comment #17

fitz-hume says ...

As long as Eddie Murphy is hosting then who cares that Ratner got the boot...

comment #18

Mike Ock says ...

Jeffrey Ross would be a very interesting choice to replace Eddie Murphy. He's actually one of the hottest comedians in the business right now.

I'd like to see Quentin Tarantino produce the show, and have either Dave Chappelle or Jeffrey Ross to host.

comment #19

Deena Jones' Wig says ...

DING
DONG
The witch is dead.

comment #20

DonMurphy says ...

Throws up in mouth.

comment #21

THE MovieBob says ...

@Abbey,

That's just it, though - he's not really "getting it" for using the-other-F-word; he's "getting it" for BEING Brett Ratner, shitty hack director and embarassing tabloid staple. This particular blowup was just the long-time-coming unignorable "last straw" for shaking him off like a bad flea.

Good riddance. He'll deserve every "rehearsal joke" made at the actual show - in fact, making THIS a news story has probably done more to make Oscar relevant again than Ratner ever could've done as producer.

So... the BIG question now becomes who replaces him. Lemme throw one out: Bill Condon.

Well liked in the industry, former nominee/winner, did musicals so he knows his way around production numbers, broadway connections for extra stage talent, he'll be coming off a HUGE hit with the "Twilight" movie and - oh yeah - openly gay, which can't hurt the recovery-from-Ratner-debacle angle.

comment #22

Ray DeRousse says ...

Hollywood Elsewhere is covering the Ratner saga like TMZ on a Lindsay Lohan bender. It must've been that 150 comment post that has Wells wanking furiously like a tabloid ad copy executive.

comment #23

Lost_Contacts says ...

Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't Condon do the Hugh Jackman Oscars? The worst show in my lifetime? No thanks.

Get Soderbergh's to do it. Loves old Hollywood, well-liked, efficient...

comment #24

Cadavra says ...

THE GREAT WHITE HOPE, three Jack Ryan movies, DR. STRANGELOVE, CONAN THE BARBARIAN, THE MAN (as the first Black President), FIELD OF DREAMS, MATEWAN, CLAUDINE, and, oh yeah, BEAUTY AND THE BEAST, THE LION KING, and four STAR WARS movies. Among others. Yeah, I'd say that's a fairly decent movie career.

comment #25

berg says ...

i could swear that there was a post by team gaydos that was really funny that is no longer there

comment #26

reverent and free says ...

Yes, his name on two films that are routinely called two of the greatest films ever made isn't too shabby.

Eli Wallach got it last year, and he's known for only four films: Baby Doll, The Misfits, The Magnificent Seven, and Good/Bad/Ugly. Only two of those are much rememberrd today.

Touche on the explanations for why Lloyd won't get one.

comment #27

Kakihara says ...

So when's Rush Hour 4?

comment #28

Fortunesfool says ...

So, if you're a lousy film-maker you get shunned by Hollywood fro using the word fag
But
If you're a great film-maker you're allowed to rape under-age girls and still get a pat on the back.

Funny old world isn't it!

comment #29

markj says ...

Wackiest Rashad post ever...

comment #30

adorian says ...

Let John Waters direct. Let Bette Midler host.

comment #31

Glenn Kenny says ...

I'm with Don Murphy (hey, feels good to say that!) but I only wish he'd been more specific. So much to love!

One does have to love how it all comes back to Polanski for some people though...

comment #32

Super Soul says ...

Muppets!

comment #33

Sasha Stone says ...

Yes, it all comes swirling back to Polanski -- at least he wasn't called a pedophile this time.

comment #34

moveable hype says ...

I guess people bring up Polanski to point out a form of hyprocisy in the Hollywood community. That dense, really? It's really not that much of an apples to oranges compairison.

comment #35

DiscoNap says ...

This hysteria was comical, and makes the gay rights movement look typicall over the top, but I'm not sure I want to watch a show produced by a guy who thinks that about rehearsal.

comment #36

Glenn Kenny says ...

"Comparison," you mean, moveable hype? Actually it's not even worth arguing about. Although it's noteworthy that Ratner himself is what you might call a Polanski apologist. Put the guy in "Rush Hour 3" and everything.

comment #37

Deena Jones' Wig says ...

"This hysteria was comical, and makes the gay rights movement look typicall over the top, "

What is over the top about a livid reaction to hate speech? let me guess, you are a Caucasian male of Anglo descent. Some of you white males simply refuse to understand the damaging effect of hate language because guess what? for thousands of centuries you have bought into the bullshit that you are the barometer, the measuring rod and everything is measured against your towering stature. Then again cultural or orientation sensitivity is something some people will simply never understand

*kanyeshrug*

comment #38

Super Soul says ...

Und zee oscarbort der cinemetugrephy derborten tu...Emmanuel Lubezki! Ja ja ja!

comment #39

LicentiousMaximus says ...

I think Martin and Baldwin should be perma-hosts, but Zach Galifinakis would be interesting.

You make a gay slur in an industry replete w/ gay people and you lose your job. I don't know why people have a problem with this....unless you're just another inadequate white conservative guy, angry that you can no longer intimate your racial and cultural superiority by telling fag/wetback/nigger jokes.

comment #40

Rashad says ...

Funny how the default position is that it's only white Conservative men who make "insensitive jokes" or feel "inadequate." Minorities are far more intolerant, but that wouldn't fit the narrative most want to create.

comment #41

Glenn Kenny says ...

Got any good jokes then, Rashad?

comment #42

LicentiousMaximus says ...

Minorities aren't destroying the country in a fit of pique because they don't get to own everything anymore. White conservative men are, they deserve no benefit of the doubt. Fuck you. Fuck trickle down economics.

comment #43

Mark says ...

"What is over the top about a livid reaction to hate speech?"

I think what many white anglo's feel excessive is that the once funniest line in Old School, "I recommend you stop being such a faggot!" is now considered hate speech if you say similar in an unfilmed q&a. Complete loss of a once favorite ball-busting word, reserved for your closest friend when they refuse to jump off the high dive, over such a short period of time is a lot to adjust to.

comment #44

Rashad says ...

As funny as it always was

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Es1vJCVWBCw&feature=related

comment #45

Buk94 says ...

You don't get it, do you Rashad? I wouldn't expect a fan of Transformers 3 to understand things like nuance.

comment #46

Rashad says ...

No you're just just a bunch of hypocrites. You all laugh at these words in movies, and tv shows, and say "that's the character," as if there aren't real people like that. Hell I'm sure a bunch of you use it in private. (And don't use cocksucker either if you're so righteous.) Yes, Ratner was stupid for saying it in a public forum, but the exaggerated response is even more pathetic.

comment #47

Glenn Kenny says ...

"No you're just just a bunch of hypocrites."

Oh, Rashad. You're so cute when you get preachy. "You hypocrites...I'll show YOU!!....when I leave this basement or this Burger King or wherever the hell it is I'm personally computing from...and do whatever it is I'm gonna do that's gonna make you RESPECT me, you bastards...yeah, THEN I'll give you what for..."

But you're right, that "Reservoir Dogs" scene IS still funny. But not for the reasons you think, is the point.

Carry on.

comment #48

LicentiousMaximus says ...

White conservatives, in the grip of white cultural panic, throwing tantrums. A dime a dozen, but still funny in a sad and pathetic way:
http://thinkprogress.org/economy/2011/11/08/364180/joe-walsh-melts-down-bank-lobby/

comment #49

moviemaniac2002 says ...

Re: potential Norman Lloyd award....if Ratner was still producer, he might have green-screened Lloyd and have him re-create his spectacular fall from the Statue Of Liberty in "Saboteur".

comment #50

LexG says ...

I like how everybody's oh-so-warmhearted perma-hate of Rashad is so pervasive, even a smart guy like GK or everyone else here will ignore the kernel of truth in what he's saying-- that homosexuality, generally speaking but there are many, MANY articles to support this-- is more "verboten" in black or Latino communities... that the Prop 8 stuff was widely attributed to white homophobia, but black churches are dead-set against gay marriage... that rappers drop F-bombs at a much higher rate than tubby mainstream movie directors...

That doesn't fit the IMPERIALIST WHITE MAN meme that liberals are comfortable with, but, yeah, ask any gay black or Latino man or woman how much more OPEN MINDED their parents or uncles or buddies were about their coming out than their white counterparts would be, where it's just a regular Fred Phelps Meeting every day in White Man Land.

comment #51

mizerock says ...

50 posts and not one mention of cunnilingus or Howard Stern. It doesn't look like that theory is getting any traction at all.

comment #52

George Prager says ...

Actually LexG, it's a lot more complicated than that. FIrst of all, who did they vote for? The guys that repealed Don't Ask Don't Tell and are refusing to enforce DOMA or the other guys? And in the poorer black and Latino communities, where there is a high crime rate and where there is a higher rate of its residents being arrested and incarcerated, there is a higher rate of homosexual activity (they know more people who have been to jail--need I say more?).

comment #53

DiscoNap says ...

Is Deena Jones' Wig sentient spam?

comment #54

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comment #55

Buk94 says ...

"No you're just just a bunch of hypocrites. You all laugh at these words in movies, and tv shows, and say "that's the character," as if there aren't real people like that. Hell I'm sure a bunch of you use it in private. (And don't use cocksucker either if you're so righteous.) Yes, Ratner was stupid for saying it in a public forum, but the exaggerated response is even more pathetic. "

Stick to Michael Bay movies, son. You truly, truly just don't get it. I don't know why I'm surprised. You are, after all, Rashad.