"Pirates" is Coming
Posted by Jeffrey Wells on June 22, 2006 at 02:08 PM
"I'm beginning to wonder if Pirates is not only going to blow everything out of the water this year, but if it's going to take the three-day record from Spiderman. I didn't go to the screening last night, but I sent my girlfriend and she reported that it's not only incredible, but that it had the junket audience applauding as well. If Jerry Bruckheimer, Gore Verbinksi and Johnny Depp can do that to the hard-core critics and cynics, think what it's going to do for the civilians." -- Journalist colleague. Wells reply: You're probably right about Pirates blowing everything out of the water, etc., but junket journalists have never been my idea of "hard-core". They talk very cynically in private, but they tend to be generous in the presence of talent and publicists, so I don't know how much stock you can put in their applaudings.
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I just can't muster up any desire to see this movie. I enjoyed the first and was ecstatic when Depp was nominated for an Oscar.
I really just don't care about this, though. Either the promotional campaign has failed or I've become a bitter, jaded, elitist fuck.
Probably a mixture of the two.
Posted by: Rick at June 22, 2006 02:43 PM
Is anybody really mroe interested in this than Superman Returns? SR looks like a real, credible movie, whereas Pirates looks like generic Hollywood fluff on par with X3, The Da Vinci Code, and all the other fluff they're passing off as movies these days.
Posted by: at June 22, 2006 02:52 PM
Superman Returns doesn't appeal to me at all. I'm spazzing waiting to see Pirates!!!!!
Posted by: at June 22, 2006 02:56 PM
50 million opening day. Easy. Easier than easy.
Posted by: at June 22, 2006 03:00 PM
Whether or not the film will be a long-term blockbuster, I'm almost certain at this point that the three-day record is toast. I cannot remember a film this big that EVERYONE wanted to see (not aware of, not curious about, but genuinely wanting to see). And, comparatively speaking, the marketing has been almost quiet (of course, rerun season means I watch a heck of a lot less TV). Similiar to Spider-Man back in 02, this is a big franchise that still is 'cool' and has yet to develop any kind of backlash (either the geeks rebel or non-geeks don't want to go cause it's a geek thing). And unlike other recent movies that had a shot at the record (like Harry Potter IV), the 'heat' has not peaked too early.
As for the alleged competition between Superman Returns and Pirates, surely the marketplace is big enough for the both of them. If they are both as good as most critics claim in their own specifically intended ways, I can't see why they both can't do gangbusters business feeding off the same audience.
Scott Mendelson
Posted by: Scott Mendelson at June 22, 2006 03:14 PM
Scott,
Why the competition though? I mean, it's interesting to read the messageboards and blogs online. The battle lines have been drawn when it comes to these films and I just find that really funny yet interesting.
Like you said, they can coexist together. We should all hope that both films are good. It's just crazy right now what's going on with these two films.
Posted by: Cory at June 22, 2006 03:19 PM
who are all these kofis showing up lately?? is it so hard to attach your name? (I should note that the "remember me?" function has never remembered me, on any computer)
I don't know if it's me, but the ad campaign seems non existent compared to Superman. I'd much rather see Pirates panhandle on cereal boxes than Supe. Then again, maybe it is and I'm just not looking low enough on the shelf.
Posted by: delbomber at June 22, 2006 03:23 PM
Screw both movies. Wake me when Borat opens.
Posted by: lesterg at June 22, 2006 03:53 PM
SR is currently tracking to open to about half as much as "Pirates...". That's a very concerning number, considering that latter opens more than a week later. This, along with good reviews, is why Warners bumped up the release date. Unfortunately, word-of-mouth from regular audiences who've been to advance screenings is apparently not going to be nearly as postivie.
Posted by: at June 22, 2006 04:11 PM
I could be wrong, but it's my impression (which I got from Stephen King, among others) that Johnny Depp as Captain Jack Sparrow, is a lot more popular with the ladies than Superman. King's comment was something along the lines of, "the moms will come and bring the kids along." If so, that's going to be the difference. Funny how Cap'n Jack wears the mascara and swishes around and it's Superman who's supposed to be gay.
Posted by: Rich at June 22, 2006 05:02 PM
I thougth the first Pirates was silly but fun. Every women I know is into Pirates 2 because of Johnny depp (we are over 15 that is why we don't care about Orlando). none of us can relate to Kate as a mom. she seems way too young to be Lois Lane.
Posted by: nola at June 22, 2006 05:38 PM
Yekshemesh to that, Lester G., although I saw "Superman" today, and it's top-notch.
Posted by: Nick at June 22, 2006 06:48 PM
I don't know, I'm rooting for Superman, but come on! Pirates need respect! They were a staple of early cinema but just hard to find these days. It's got Johnnie and Orlando and that's a rock-solid reason to get my wife into the theater (and recently she's begun to abhor the theater experience).
As far as Superman is concerned, she has no idea who any of the leads are except for Kevin Spacey... so she's not interested.
Me. I'll be watching both. Probably twice.
Posted by: JD at June 22, 2006 07:43 PM
Me, I'm all about the Pirates. I was a huge "Lois and Clark" fan back in the day (such wonderfully cheesy TV), but I can't muster up any enthusiasm for Supes. And all of my friends (mainly female, mid-20s) feel pretty much the same way - we'd rather go enjoy Johnny and Orlando's swashing and buckling. :)
Posted by: LH at June 23, 2006 09:10 AM
Well I am a big Pirates fan, so of course I am really hoping it does great things st the box office. Superman Returns is getting good reviews so far, but there seems to be a division in views. Some see it as too similar to the Chris Reeve version, others say Routh has made it his own. I don't plan on seeing it so I can't be a judge, but it sounds like people who want a lot of superhero action may be disappointed because he comes off too human. As I said this is just my impression from things I have read, but there is no reason it won't do well at the box office that first weekend.
Posted by: Janet at June 23, 2006 09:41 AM
Hey, I'm all into pirates. I loved the first movie and can not wait to see the next ones. I've been following the filming and all the hype daily for over a year. I'm a 56 year old lady by the way. As for superman, I'll see it as well, just not as anxious.
Posted by: Nezziw at June 23, 2006 12:05 PM
But Nick, I read that Superman is man who like to make romance inside of another man. Is this not correct?
I can't wait for Borat...I wish the summer was ending tomorrow.
Posted by: lesterg at June 23, 2006 12:37 PM
My event movie of the Summer is Little Miss Sunshine.
I don't think I have it in me to muster enthusiasm for another "event" film that arrives with all the spontaneity of a national holiday. Sure Superman or Pirates might be fun, and kudos to the creative people behind them doing their best, but, honestly, all I see when I look at their ads are executives rolling in money.
Posted by: Michael C. at June 23, 2006 01:07 PM
Depp was great, and Keira is a babe, but I thought the original movie itself was extremely lacking. It's lengthy, predictable, and not terribly suspenseful. Scott, it's simply not true that "EVERYONE" wants to see this. If it garners universally outstanding reviews, I'll probably make it out to see it the 2nd or 3rd weekend, but otherwise I won't be seeing it in the theater.
Posted by: C. Robert Dimitri at June 23, 2006 02:06 PM
Without Depp's inspired performance, I would've walked out on PIRATES.
Still, reading Jeff wondering if it'll beat Spiderman's opening, he's like Ari on ENTOURAGE, preying that AQUAMAN does the same.
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