Ive been reading the site for years and I love it. It does seem to crackle with a bit more fire recently.

This may go down as a somewhat rhetorical question, but... Who cares?

Is the way in which you define yourself based entirely on the way that David Poland defines you? Do you fear that being defined under "Gossip," that might change the way you write and the way that the readers of this site see you? You are who you are, whether that's "Gossip" or "News" or "Columnist" or "Misc. Oddity."

You're doing just fine if Poland categorizes you with Nikki Finke...

One way or the other, you care much too much about David Poland's opinion. As Randy Jackson would say, "Just do your thing, dawg."

This is what I was saying. When the proprietor (i.e., owner, profiter, publisher) of a site is also the editor-in-chief, reporter and critic, there's abuse -- the best you can do is point it out. Complain too loudly, and he'll take you off altogether -- oh, but wait, does he collect $ (I would use the cent sign if my keyboard had it) when someone uses the link on his sight to jump to yours? I think Poland's being greased left and right and it's going to his head, heck he even liked John Tucker, saying he didn't have anything better to do, so he went to a screening and it wasn't that bad -- kiss kiss Dave, thanks for coming, we'll catch ya next time. (RE the italics, one of my computers shows your post in italics and the other with a different internet connection doesn't.)

Jeff, I think you're great, but...maybe you and David just need to get a room?

I haven't seen so much resentment-and-hurled-barbs-to-cover-up-a-fiery-attraction schtick like yours and Poland's since I took the Moonlighting DVDs for a spin.

i love this site

Why don't you and Poland just arrange the inevitable fight to the death once and for all. Call your weapons and settle it. All proceeds to charity!!

F*** Poland, Jeff. You're site has become much more dynamic and interesting since the format change and the addition of user comments. Pay no mind and keep doing your thing. Watch the open tags, bro

I never know how much of this cross-animosity is real, but either way I *love* the soap opera that is Poland/Wells (Wells/Poland?).

Best show in town, imo.

I haven't read Poland since.......I just got somewhat bored with his THB. He asks for comments and only publishes one, what's that about?

So you're thinking maybe you should have parallel sites along the lines of AT and DP (what horrible initials to grow up with, that must be his problem) but together on the same page, one for feature columns without comments and one for quick takes with comments. It's worth looking into down, but not a huge priority. If you have a column area, you could invite guest or spec columnists.

So are the rumors really true that Poland has blown publicists in order to get into screenings early?

Poland represents the nadir of Hollywood bloggers. A bitchy, closeted, wanabe, no talent, hackmeister who's an early bird cum gargler for Russell Schwartz and a couple of his ilk. It's no loss, Jeff, you are still the man. I'd dump any links to MCN regardless. I mean, this is war, right?

I've been reading your column faithfully in its various forms forever and ever it seems. I started reading Poland on your recommendation years ago but I've stopped over the past several months. He's just not for me. I tried, I really did. Hollywood Elsewhere is the one column on the business I recommend to everyone - always. I may not always agree with you but your ideas and writing are always compelling. Keep up the good work. Poland Schmoland. Who cares what he thinks?

Jeff you're right but you do give Poland a hard time every once and a while but that's no excuse for him to put you into a category in which you totally don't belong.

Hey, those are great initials to grow up with

Man, fuck that guy, seriously.

His "Lunch with David" things are really forced and feel kinda weird. We know this guy isn't really a player, but here's a video of him pretending to be a player? It's awkward and kind of humiliating.

You are vastly more fun to read, more insightful and much more interesting than Poland.

The dude doesn't update enough anyway. Also, seriously, you're above this bullshit pissing contest stuff. Just keep doing your thing, you're great at it.

The thing is... I don't think anybody DID notice the switch of the link on MCN. I read both here and there and I didn't notice it because I have both bookmarked. As do most people who regularly read various sites.

This is about as important Geraldo complaining he doesn't get enough respect. If it was say...The New York Times that listed HE as "gossip" I could maybe understand. It's just MCN, and DP and JW are competitors.

Yawn.

Actually...in all fairness...isn't this very thread proof of gossip?...

Maybe Poland is just a rabid right-wing redstater who wanted to slight you?

David who?

"Rabbi Dave Slapdowns."

Did Wells just call Poland Sugar Tits?

But you ARE a blogger...blah, blah, blah, maybe if you created separate sections between your serious journalism and your misadventures with aluminum cookery, you would be taken more seriously as a whole. Don't read Polski, never will, but sound like he's got HE pegged just about right.

Sunday morning reviews with Poland & Wells...? or is that Wells & Poland. Check your local listings.

I'm not understanding why you care where he places your link? I never go to his website any way. Are you to just kidding about this rivalry or what?

No one cares about David Polands opinion.

But you have to admit, this website has become gossipy.

At least you know he reads it. And he's probably going to read this collumn and know he got to you.

I wish I had taken a picture of you and David calmly chatting at the post-Fountain screening party in San Diego, because I was convinced that peace in the Middle East was coming next. Oh, well.

Maybe if you stopped posting inane op-eds about Giamatti's receding hairline and yesterday's riveting read about that guy in the photo holding a bottle of water and wearing a hat, Poland (and a good share of your readership, too) would begin to veiw you as a journalist and not as a backporch Hollywood gossip. If the gossip label bothers you, start writing the more lenghty, informative stuff like you did pre-blog homepage. A simple shift in the site's main focus (valuable information and an intelligent approach over tid-bits and bon-mots) is all it would really take. It should be easy. You did it before.

Let it go. What you're doing is damn good and just getting better. You lead and write with your heart and your site is damn unique. David in the long run will be the sand pepple that will turn you into a pearl. Let it happen. Let it go, let it happen....

Wells' goal, by his own admission, is to drive traffic to this site...To paraphrase: "Keep 'em coming back." That he wants to be taken seriously at the same time seems ambitious but ultimately unrealistic based on the current format.

Lengthy articles won't do it...The only way to get people to check in repeatedly is to post these little blurbs speculating about celebrity bed-head and their favorite positions. Some of it's interesting and I hit the site often, yeah, but a tabloid is a tabloid is a tabloid. Either embrace it or change formats...as Arnie once said, "Stop whining".

This all stems from Jeff's offer to Dave some years ago. Tired of meeting up around the mountains, Jeff suggested that they go work a ranch together, maybe get some head of cattle. Drop their sham relationships or lack thereof. But Dave wouldn't have it..but he'll be sorry when Jeff is beaten up by rednecks speeding through West Hollywood looking to gay-bash.

Wells I swear..

I like both. Always have. But I get the feeling lately that Dave is getting a little jealous of Jeff's success. Dave appears to be a no-show now most of the days at his site anyway. Also, Jeff is linked by Drudge and Dave ain't. Politics aside, if you want to be linked by any cat, Drudge is the one.

Seriously, if Dave were to stop taking so many damn days off from actually working on his site, maybe he would be more relevant.

Jeff, I read you because of your style (have read you before poop-shoot) and I like the stuff that may be called gossipy or bloggish at times.

There are only a few places that I get a feeling of honesty or real-ness in the work...Sunday Morning Shootout is one, this is another...another example would be reading Bukowski. It's not fake and that's why I keep coming back.

Keep it up bro, and don't change.

As a reader since the days of Reel.com (when do I get a set of steak knives, anyway?), I'd have to say that I've seen the ups and downs of H-E, and it's definitely in an "up" stage. Like the new format a lot. MCN seems just as gossipy as H-E, anyway.

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