Is there anything more vile and reprehensible than the advocates of Criterion teal-tinting, and particularly those on a recent Bluray.com forum discussion about Criterion’s 4K UHD disc of Eyes Wide Shut?…flagrantly dishonest people like “VickPS” who are saying stuff like “huh?…what teal?…we don’t see it…Gary W. Tooze’s frame captures can’t be trusted!” and so on.
I’m serious…these are really bad people…really foul and rotten. Teal vandalism is real…real as it gets.
VickPS to anti-teal advocate: “You know what’s worse than people not knowing about what they’re talking about? People pretending to know what they’re talking about, and speaking with authority while belittling the opinions of others.”
Pro-teal #1: “DVDs and Blurays use an 8-bit YCbCr color space which offers 16.7 million colors. Certainly enough to offer an accurate representation of the film.
Anti-teal #1: “That is false. When film is digitized into 8-bit YCbCr, colors are mapped or compressed into a narrower gamut, and subtle gradations are quantized into 256 levels, leading to loss of vibrancy, detail, and fidelity. Wider gamut spaces are needed to better approximate film’s color range, but even these don’t fully match the analog complexity of photochemical film. Your point also assumes that the telecine operator working on DVDs and early Blu-rays was trying to make films look like photochemical film, which is clearly not the case for the majority of releases.
Pro-teal #2: “‘Teal conspiracies’, huh? ‘A bad faith argument’? What exactly are you even blathering about here? What bad faith? It’s his opinion. Do some people work for an anti-Teal groups, ready to take down big Orange-Red?! What’s the narrative? and remind us all how it’s been ‘debunked'”.
Anti-teal #2: “I worked at a movie theater in my teens where Eyes Wide Shut was shown daily. I’ve seen it on DVD, Bluray and TV, and I’m telling you with 100% certainty that it is not supposed to have this [teal] grading, or at least didn’t in every medium I saw it on at the time.
HE to DVD Beaver’s Gary W. Tooze: There are people claiming that your Eyes Wide Shut frame captures, which reveal flagrant teal-tinting, aren’t accurate. Are they? Because if they are, Criterion’s EWS 4K Bluray is definitely teal-infected. And they’re doing the work of the living devil.