In a 2.28 Vulture piece titled “The Cult of Daniels,” Daniel Kwan, the co-director of Everything Everywhere All At Once, recalls a conversation with his mother, June Kwan, who owns an East Village Asian food restaurant called Spicy Moon.

“My mom was very proud but confused by the [Oscar] nominations,” says Daniel K. “She was like, ‘I know people like the film, but can you explain why people love it?‘”

Bilge Ebiri, the article’s author, also speaks to June directly: