Four days after the Gold Derby gang posted their annual gut-instinct, know-nothing award season predictions, the good old Gurus of Gold have weighed in with their spitballs. But this time they’re splitting the chart into three categories — (1) Already Widely Seen/Festival-Premiered, (2) Making The Festival Run and (3) Coming in Mid-October or Later.

The most exciting Guru news is an apparent conviction (shared by all except for The Hollywood Reporter‘s Scott Feinberg, Indiewire‘s Anne Thompson and Susan Wloszczyna) that Martin Scorsese‘s Silence will be released this year. That’s not what I’m hearing but if it is, great! But who have these gurus been talking to?

Todd Haynes‘ Carol is the most highly-rated in the first category — no surprise — followed by Inside Out (forget it), Mad Max: Fury Road (thumbs up, agree with Kyle Buchanan), Youth and Brooklyn.

Among the Making The Festival Runners the highest ranked are The Danish Girl, Steve Jobs (current HE fave), Spotlight, Black Mass, Trumbo and Suffragette. The follow-ups in this category are Our Brand Is Crisis, I Saw The Light, Where To Invade Next, The Program, Room, The Lady In The Van, Legend and Beasts of No Nation.

HE warning: Fandango’s Dave Karger is one of the Gurus who’ve put The Danish Girl on top with a #1 vote. You want to be wary of Karger’s choices as he almost always favors the default mainstream emotional factor — remember that he was a big War Horse supporter and was fairly crushed when that Steven Spielberg film cratered as an awards contender.

Among the Coming in Mid October or Later films, the big winner so far is Alejandro G. Inarritu‘s The Revenant (naturally) followed by David O. Russell‘s Joy, Bridge of Spies, The Hateful Eight, Ron Howard’s In the Heart of the Sea, Oliver Stone‘s Snowden, Angelina Jolie‘s By The Sea and Silence.